4:05 p.m.
This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team,
not to your local site managers!!
Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have
translators to read other languages for them.
Please describe as succinctly as possible:
- What happened.
- What you thought should have happened.
- Precisely what you were doing at the time.
Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have.
================================================================
Dear Bug Team!
I've tried M-x term under XEmacs 21.1.14 on both RedHat 6.2, 7.1 and
Debian 2.2r3, and under XEmacs 21.4.4 on RedHat 7.1 (the platform I'm
writing this report on). It doesn't seem to work properly, the
principal problem being that \r characters (carriage returns) are
somehow not reaching the terminal emulator, so that every time you
press RETURN the display stair
steps
like
this.
I've poked around in the code a bit and verified that
term-emulate-terminal is simply not being sent the \r characters. I've
tried without a .emacs file just to make sure it wasn't my config. I
hope you can fix this, because not being able to run terminal programs
in XEmacs is one of the few remaining flies in the ointment of my
total XEmacs nirvana!
================================================================
System Info to help track down your bug:
---------------------------------------
uname -a: Linux msrc-v-reubth.europe.corp.microsoft.com 2.4.3-12 #1 Fri Jun 8 15:05:56 EDT
2001 i686 unknown
./configure '--prefix=/home/rrt' '--with-mule'
XEmacs 21.4.4 "Artificial Intelligence" configured for `i686-pc-linux'.
Compilation / Installation:
Source code location: /home/rrt/xemacs-21.4.4
Installation prefix: /home/rrt
Operating system description file: `s/linux.h'
Machine description file: `m/intel386.h'
Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wshadow -Wsign-compare
Relocating allocator for buffers: no
GNU version of malloc: yes
- Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library.
Window System:
Compiling in support for the X window system:
- X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include
- X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib
- Handling WM_COMMAND properly.
Using Lucid menubars.
Using Lucid scrollbars.
TTY:
Compiling in support for ncurses.
Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse).
Images:
Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin).
Compiling in support for XPM images.
Compiling in support for PNG images.
Compiling in support for JPEG images.
Compiling in support for TIFF images.
Sound:
Compiling in support for sound (native).
Databases:
Compiling in support for Berkeley database.
Compiling in support for LDAP.
Internationalization:
Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs).
Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method).
- Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support.
Mail:
Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method.
Other Features:
Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules.
Installed XEmacs Packages:
-------------------------
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(xslt-process :version 1.04 :type regular)
(xemacs-devel :version 1.37 :type single-file)
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(pc :version 1.2 :type single-file)
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(misc-games :version 1.15 :type single-file)
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(gnats :version 1.12 :type regular)
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(cc-mode :version 1.25 :type regular)
(calendar :version 1.16 :type regular)
(calc :version 1.17 :type regular)
(c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file)
(build :version 1.02 :type regular)
(bbdb :version 1.13 :type regular)
(auctex :version 1.25 :type regular)
(mule-base :version 1.39 :type regular)
(lookup :version 1.08 :type regular)
(leim :version 1.17 :type regular)
(egg-its :version 1.26 :type regular)
(edict :version 1.12 :type regular))
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gnus-cite gnus-async gnus-score score-mode gnus-ml gnus-msg gnus-art
mm-uu mm-view gnus-sum nndraft nnmh gnus-cache gnus-group gnus-undo
nnmail mail-source format-spec nntp nnoo gnus-start gnus-range
gnus-spec gnus-int gnus-win supercite regi xemacsbug metamail feedmail
starttls smtpmail time-stamp rmail-mini rmail mail-extr
highlight-headers imap gnus gnus-ems gnus-xmas message messagexmas mml
mm-decode mm-encode mail-parse rfc2045 rfc2231 mail-abbrevs mailheader
eudc-vars bbdb qmtp mm-bodies uudecode rfc2047 gnus-util nnheader
nnheaderxm ietf-drums time-date parse-time qp mm-util mail-prsvr
mailcap smime shell comint compile env dired-faces dired-xemacs dired
eldoc elp smtp sasl sasl-anonymous sasl-login sasl-plain w3-style
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xbm-button xpm-button w3-forms images url-http url-cookie urlauth
mel-q-ccl mime-w3 w3 w3-menu url-news url-gw w3-script w3-jscript
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w3-display w3-mouse w3-imap w3-widget w3-vars w3-keyword w3-cus
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emu invisible inv-xemacs elmo-util utf7 eword-decode mel mime-def
alist mcharset mcs-20 mcs-xm mcs-xmu poem poem-xm pces pces-xfc
pces-20 broken pces-xm pcustom std11 elmo-date timezone path-util
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vc-hooks mwheel edmacro iswitchb gnuserv zenirc-autoloads
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w3-autoloads view-process-autoloads vc-autoloads time-autoloads
textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads texinfo-autoloads
supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads speedbar-autoloads
sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads slider-autoloads
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misc-games-autoloads mine-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads
mail-lib-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads ilisp-autoloads
igrep-autoloads hm--html-menus-autoloads gnus-autoloads
gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads
frame-icon-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads eterm-autoloads
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edebug-autoloads dired-autoloads debug-autoloads cookie-autoloads
cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads
c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads
mule-base-autoloads lookup-autoloads leim-autoloads egg-its-autoloads
edict-autoloads wl-autoloads semi-autoloads flim-autoloads
apel-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show fontl-hooks
x-iso8859-1 slovenian czech romanian ccl mule-help code-cmds
gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar mode-motion mouse itimer
auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page buff-menu lib-complete
cus-file derived frame text-props obsolete cus-start custom widget
cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages backquote very-early-lisp
file-coding mule lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars x
c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar native-sound scrollbar
unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules
menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db md5 xemacs xim gutter
tiff png gif jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type linux devices window-system
base64)
Recent keystrokes:
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d - a n d - e x i t RET n C-c C-c C-x k RET up up up
C-k C-k C-k C-k C-x C-s C-x b * s h RET n e t s c a
BS a p e & Sh-SPC RET C-x b RET button1 button1up down
down down down down down down down down down down C-e
M-BS M-BS M-BS M-BS M-BS M-BS M-BS C-_ BS C-x C-s M-x
s u b TAB BS BS BS b u TAB g TAB BS BS BS r e p o TAB
r TAB x e TAB RET
Recent messages (most recent first):
-----------------------------------
Wrote /home/rrt/Mail/draft/1
(New file)
Making completion list...
Making completion list...
Wrote /home/rrt/ToDo
Wrote /home/rrt/.w3/history
Wrote /home/rrt/ToDo
Sending...done
Sending...
Exit MIME editor mode.
Type C-c C-x C-z to exit MIME mode, and type C-c C-x ? to get help.
Output file does not exist
"/home/rrt/Mail/draft/+sent-mail" does not exist, create it? (y or n) No
"/home/rrt/Mail/draft/+sent-mail" does not exist, create it? (y or n)
Sending...
Type C-c C-x C-z to exit MIME mode, and type C-c C-x ? to get help.
Wrote /home/rrt/Mail/draft/1
(New file)
Sending...done
Sending...
4:09 p.m.
|--==> "r" == rrt <rrt(a)sc3d.org> writes:
r> I've tried M-x term under XEmacs 21.1.14 on both RedHat 6.2, 7.1 and
[...]
Have you tried either 'M-x shell' or 'M-x eshell'? Either of those
may behave better for you.
r> tried without a .emacs file just to make sure it wasn't my config. I
r> hope you can fix this, because not being able to run terminal programs
r> in XEmacs is one of the few remaining flies in the ointment of my
r> total XEmacs nirvana!
Specifically, which terminal programs do you wish to run from inside
XEmacs?
--
|---<Steve Youngs>---------------<GnuPG KeyID: 9E7E2820>---|
| XEmacs - It's not just an editor. |
| It's a way of life. |
|------------------------------------<youngs(a)xemacs.org>---|
7:40 p.m.
Steve Youngs wrote:
|--==> "r" == rrt <rrt(a)sc3d.org> writes:
r> I've tried M-x term under XEmacs 21.1.14 on both RedHat 6.2, 7.1 and
[...]
Have you tried either 'M-x shell' or 'M-x eshell'? Either of those
may behave better for you.
M-x shell works fine, as does eshell, but neither does full terminal
emulation.
Specifically, which terminal programs do you wish to run from inside
XEmacs?
Programs like top, tree & so on that use cursor positioning and color;
also color ls &c.
| It's a way of life. |
That's the trouble. I want to get rid of xterm and live in XEmacs!
6:52 a.m.
Reuben Thomas wrote:
> r> I've tried M-x term under XEmacs 21.1.14 on both
RedHat 6.2, 7.1 and
>
> [...]
>
> Have you tried either 'M-x shell' or 'M-x eshell'? Either of those
> may behave better for you.
M-x shell works fine, as does eshell, but neither does full terminal
emulation.
> Specifically, which terminal programs do you wish to run from inside
> XEmacs?
Programs like top, tree & so on that use cursor positioning and color;
also color ls &c.
Note that shell-mode can handle colour via ansi-color.el (from the
text-modes package); use ansi-color-for-comint-mode-on to enable it.
--
Glynn Clements <glynn.clements(a)virgin.net>
1:28 p.m.
At Sun, 9 Sep 2001 06:52:28 +0100,
Glynn Clements wrote:
Note that shell-mode can handle colour via ansi-color.el (from the
text-modes package); use ansi-color-for-comint-mode-on to enable it.
Yes; I'd already found this, but just colouring wasn't enough. Also,
for the main thing for which this would be useful, ls --color, this
would need some fiddling in my .bashrc, because dircolors rightly
notices that TERM=emacs doesn't support colour, and so doesn't set
things up right. I guess the thing to do would be to temporarily set
TERM to vt100, run dircolors, and then restore it, but if you have a
better suggestion, I'd be glad to hear it.
1:18 p.m.
Reuben Thomas wrote:
> Note that shell-mode can handle colour via ansi-color.el (from
the
> text-modes package); use ansi-color-for-comint-mode-on to enable it.
Yes; I'd already found this, but just colouring wasn't enough. Also,
for the main thing for which this would be useful, ls --color, this
would need some fiddling in my .bashrc, because dircolors rightly
notices that TERM=emacs doesn't support colour, and so doesn't set
things up right. I guess the thing to do would be to temporarily set
TERM to vt100, run dircolors, and then restore it, but if you have a
better suggestion, I'd be glad to hear it.
Either modify the "emacs" terminfo/termcap entry to indicate that it
supports ANSI colour, with:
colors#8,
and
setab=\E[4%p1%dm, setaf=\E[3%p1%dm,
or create a new, colour-enabled, terminfo/termcap entry and use that
instead of "emacs" (you would have to hard-code it; comint doesn't
have an equivalent of term-term-name).
--
Glynn Clements <glynn.clements(a)virgin.net>
6:16 p.m.
rrt(a)sc3d.org wrote:
I've tried M-x term under XEmacs 21.1.14 on both RedHat 6.2, 7.1
and
Debian 2.2r3, and under XEmacs 21.4.4 on RedHat 7.1 (the platform I'm
writing this report on). It doesn't seem to work properly, the
principal problem being that \r characters (carriage returns) are
somehow not reaching the terminal emulator, so that every time you
press RETURN the display stair
steps
like
this.
I've poked around in the code a bit and verified that
term-emulate-terminal is simply not being sent the \r characters.
Try "stty onlcr".
--
Glynn Clements <glynn.clements(a)virgin.net>
7:26 p.m.
Glynn Clements wrote:
> I've tried M-x term under XEmacs 21.1.14 on both RedHat 6.2, 7.1 and
> Debian 2.2r3, and under XEmacs 21.4.4 on RedHat 7.1 (the platform I'm
> writing this report on). It doesn't seem to work properly, the
> principal problem being that \r characters (carriage returns) are
> somehow not reaching the terminal emulator, so that every time you
> press RETURN the display stair
> steps
> like
> this.
> I've poked around in the code a bit and verified that
> term-emulate-terminal is simply not being sent the \r characters.
Try "stty onlcr".
That doesn't seem to have any effect (I'd already tried it, but I
tried it again to make sure). Are you saying that this works for you?
(I've yet to find anyone for whom it actually works under XEmacs 21).
6:29 a.m.
Reuben Thomas wrote:
> > I've tried M-x term under XEmacs 21.1.14 on both RedHat
6.2, 7.1 and
> > Debian 2.2r3, and under XEmacs 21.4.4 on RedHat 7.1 (the platform I'm
> > writing this report on). It doesn't seem to work properly, the
> > principal problem being that \r characters (carriage returns) are
> > somehow not reaching the terminal emulator, so that every time you
> > press RETURN the display stair
> > steps
> > like
> > this.
> > I've poked around in the code a bit and verified that
> > term-emulate-terminal is simply not being sent the \r characters.
>
> Try "stty onlcr".
That doesn't seem to have any effect (I'd already tried it, but I
tried it again to make sure). Are you saying that this works for you?
(I've yet to find anyone for whom it actually works under XEmacs 21).
Yes; however, I suspect that the problem lies elsewhere. Try this:
(push '("/.*" . binary) process-coding-system-alist)
If that works, the problem is that term-mode was having "DOS to Unix"
EOL conversion automatically performed on the output from the process
(which is usually what's desired, but not for a terminal emulator).
--
Glynn Clements <glynn.clements(a)virgin.net>
1:24 p.m.
At Sun, 9 Sep 2001 06:29:45 +0100,
Glynn Clements was inspired to write:
Yes; however, I suspect that the problem lies elsewhere. Try this:
(push '("/.*" . binary) process-coding-system-alist)
That did it. Brilliant!
If that works, the problem is that term-mode was having "DOS to
Unix"
EOL conversion automatically performed on the output from the process
(which is usually what's desired, but not for a terminal emulator).
So how come XEmacs seems to come set up like this by default?
Presumably because the above setting is what you want in, for example,
M-x shell? Presumably what's needed is to set the above locally in the
term hook or something? In any case, some fix ought to be added to
term.el (or wherever is appropriate) so that it works out of the box,
surely? I for one would not have guessed that fix in a million years;
for one, because I thought that the reason my line endings were fixed
automatically in shell mode was by lines like
(add-hook 'comint-output-filter-functions 'comint-strip-ctrl-m)
(add-hook 'shell-output-filter-functions 'shell-strip-ctrl-m)
in my .xemacs/init.el. However, now it seems as though these are
redundant...
Although you have now solved my problem, I'm still keen to pursue the
general solution, so that term.el works for everyone, without stopping
other things from working.
1:08 p.m.
Reuben Thomas wrote:
Glynn Clements was inspired to write:
>
> Yes; however, I suspect that the problem lies elsewhere. Try this:
>
> (push '("/.*" . binary) process-coding-system-alist)
That did it. Brilliant!
> If that works, the problem is that term-mode was having "DOS to Unix"
> EOL conversion automatically performed on the output from the process
> (which is usually what's desired, but not for a terminal emulator).
So how come XEmacs seems to come set up like this by default?
Probably because term.el hasn't been updated to deal with the
introduction of coding systems (previously only MULE-enabled XEmacsen
had them).
Presumably because the above setting is what you want in, for
example,
M-x shell? Presumably what's needed is to set the above locally in the
term hook or something?
Well, I just use the above line to force the coding system to binary
in all cases. I'll change it if I ever find anything which breaks.
In any case, some fix ought to be added to
term.el (or wherever is appropriate) so that it works out of the box,
surely?
Yep. Calling set-process-output-coding-system from somewhere within
term-exec should do it.
I for one would not have guessed that fix in a million years;
for one, because I thought that the reason my line endings were fixed
automatically in shell mode was by lines like
(add-hook 'comint-output-filter-functions 'comint-strip-ctrl-m)
(add-hook 'shell-output-filter-functions 'shell-strip-ctrl-m)
in my .xemacs/init.el. However, now it seems as though these are
redundant...
The above are (mostly) redundant if the TTY is using the "stty -onlcr"
setting (although occasionally a program will change the TTY settings,
or output CRs of its own accord).
--
Glynn Clements <glynn.clements(a)virgin.net>
9:57 p.m.
On Sun, 9 Sep 2001, Glynn Clements spake:
Yes; however, I suspect that the problem lies elsewhere. Try this:
(push '("/.*" . binary) process-coding-system-alist)
If that works, the problem is that term-mode was having "DOS to Unix"
EOL conversion automatically performed on the output from the process
(which is usually what's desired, but not for a terminal emulator).
This is indeed the problem; I hit it when 21.4 came out. Luckily, it's
easy to persistently work around, for both term and tshell:
(defun bug-evil-term-process-coding-system ()
"Fix a term bug; the `process-coding-system' should always be
`binary'."
(set-buffer-process-coding-system 'binary 'binary))
(add-hook 'term-exec-hook 'gawd-evil-term-process-coding-system-bugfix)
--
`It's all about bossing computers around. Users have to say "please".
Programmers get to say "do what I want NOW or the hard disk gets it".'
-- Richard Heathfield on the nature of programming
11:55 a.m.
(Reading old mail...)
Reuben Thomas <rrt(a)sc3d.org> writes:
> > I've poked around in the code a bit and verified that
> > term-emulate-terminal is simply not being sent the \r characters.
>
> Try "stty onlcr".
That doesn't seem to have any effect (I'd already tried it, but I
tried it again to make sure). Are you saying that this works for you?
(I've yet to find anyone for whom it actually works under XEmacs 21).
Your XEmacs seems to have MULE enabled.
Try C-x RET c binary RET M-x term
or C-x RET c iso-8859-1-unix RET M-x term
This is also a hint about how to fix it properly in
term.el.:-)
--
Yoshiki Hayashi
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