10:25 a.m.
I've just checked in code that replaces the C-based implementation of
window configurations by a purely Elisp-based one. The new one is
(hopefully) substantially cleaner, but there are some gotchas:
- there are some subtle semantic differences which will probably
affect some of the packages
- it exposes long-standing geometry bugs that the old code didn't
expose
- and of course, there are bound to be bugs: some aspects of the Elisp
code are still pretty subtle
On the upside, I've been running with this code for two weeks without
problems. But that's just my setup.
So, I'd appreciate if everybody stayed calm and patient and file
precise bug reports while we shake out the problems that are sure to
come up---despite your understandable urges to grab something heavy
and pointed and ram it into your screen.
Thank you,
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Cheers =8-} Mike
Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla
7:22 p.m.
sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) writes:
So, I'd appreciate if everybody stayed calm and patient and file
precise bug reports while we shake out the problems that are sure to
come up---despite your understandable urges to grab something heavy
and pointed and ram it into your screen.
Something broke the scrolling in the summary buffer of my gnus. No,
not the normal scrolling. I use gnus-pick-mode and the cursor is in
the article buffer and the summary buffer should scroll along as I
read the articles. Now I need to manually scroll the summary buffer.
I think the reason for this breakage could be these geometry & window
configuration changes.
I use the CVS version of the Gnus.
,----[ M-x describe-installation ]
| "uname -a: Linux iny 2.4.19 #1 Sat Aug 3 10:26:36 EEST 2002 i686 unknown
|
| ./configure '--prefix=/opt/xemacs' '--with-mule' '--with-xfs'
'--with-widgets=athena'
|
|
| XEmacs 21.5-b9 \"brussels sprouts\" (+CVS-20021211) configured for
`i686-pc-linux'.
|
|
| Compilation / Installation:
| Source code location: /home/biny/packages/cvs/xemacs
| Installation prefix: /opt/xemacs
| Operating system description file: `s/linux.h'
| Machine description file: `m/intel386.h'
| Compiler: gcc -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes
-Wsign-compare -Wundef -Wstrict-prototypes -Wshadow -Wmissing-declarations -g -O3
| Relocating allocator for buffers: no
| GNU version of malloc: yes
| - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library.
| Linking with `-z nocombreloc'.
| - Consider configuring with --pdump.
|
| Window System:
| Compiling in support for the X window system:
| - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include
| - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib
| - Handling WM_COMMAND properly.
| Compiling in support for the Athena widget set:
| - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw
| - Athena library to link: Xaw
| Using Lucid menubars.
| Using Lucid scrollbars.
| Using Athena dialog boxes.
| Using Athena native widgets.
|
| TTY:
| Compiling in support for ncurses.
| Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse).
|
| Images:
| Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin).
| Compiling in support for XPM images.
| Compiling in support for PNG images.
| Compiling in support for JPEG images.
| Compiling in support for TIFF images.
| Compiling in support for X-Face message headers.
|
| Sound:
| Compiling in support for sound (native).
| Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon).
|
| Databases:
| Compiling in support for Berkeley database.
| Compiling in support for LDAP.
| Compiling in support for PostgreSQL.
| - Using PostgreSQL header file: libpq-fe.h
| - Using PostgreSQL V7 bindings.
|
| Internationalization:
| Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs).
| Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method).
| - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support.
| - Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar.
|
| Mail:
| Compiling in support for \"dot-locking\" mail spool file locking method.
|
| Other Features:
| Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup.
| Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules.
| Compiling in support for extra debugging code.
| WARNING: ---------------------------------------------------------
| WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking.
| WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result.
| WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases.
| WARNING: ---------------------------------------------------------
|
| "
`----
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Ilpo Nyyssönen # biny # /* :-) */
12:56 p.m.
>>>> "Ilpo" == Ilpo Nyyssönen
<iny+dev(a)iki.fi> writes:
Ilpo> sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor])
writes:
> So, I'd appreciate if everybody stayed calm and patient and
file
> precise bug reports while we shake out the problems that are sure to
> come up---despite your understandable urges to grab something heavy
> and pointed and ram it into your screen.
Ilpo> Something broke the scrolling in the summary buffer of my gnus. No,
Ilpo> not the normal scrolling. I use gnus-pick-mode and the cursor is in
Ilpo> the article buffer and the summary buffer should scroll along as I
Ilpo> read the articles. Now I need to manually scroll the summary buffer.
Ilpo> I think the reason for this breakage could be these geometry & window
Ilpo> configuration changes.
Definitely. Ben Wing just checked in a fix. Does that (i.e. the
current CVS code) cure the problem?
--
Cheers =8-} Mike
Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla
1:10 p.m.
sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) writes:
Ilpo> Something broke the scrolling in the summary buffer of my
gnus. No,
Ilpo> not the normal scrolling. I use gnus-pick-mode and the cursor is in
Ilpo> the article buffer and the summary buffer should scroll along as I
Ilpo> read the articles. Now I need to manually scroll the summary buffer.
Ilpo> I think the reason for this breakage could be these geometry & window
Ilpo> configuration changes.
Definitely. Ben Wing just checked in a fix. Does that (i.e. the
current CVS code) cure the problem?
Yes, it helps. (I actually applied the patch when I noticed it few
days ago.)
Now that I took a closer look, it doesn't work just the way it used
to. I get a feeling that it is one row behind, when going through
articles one at a time.
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Ilpo Nyyssönen # biny # /* :-) */
2:23 p.m.
>>>> "Ilpo" == Ilpo Nyyssönen
<iny+dev(a)iki.fi> writes:
Ilpo> sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor])
writes:
Ilpo> Something broke the scrolling in the summary buffer of my gnus. No,
Ilpo> not the normal scrolling. I use gnus-pick-mode and the cursor is in
Ilpo> the article buffer and the summary buffer should scroll along as I
Ilpo> read the articles. Now I need to manually scroll the summary buffer.
Ilpo> >
Ilpo> I think the reason for this breakage could be these geometry & window
Ilpo> configuration changes.
Ilpo> >
> Definitely. Ben Wing just checked in a fix. Does that (i.e.
the
> current CVS code) cure the problem?
Ilpo> Yes, it helps. (I actually applied the patch when I noticed it few
Ilpo> days ago.)
Ilpo> Now that I took a closer look, it doesn't work just the way it used
Ilpo> to. I get a feeling that it is one row behind, when going through
Ilpo> articles one at a time.
If you could clarify that feeling, it'd be a big help :-)
--
Cheers =8-} Mike
Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla
5:40 p.m.
sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) writes:
Ilpo> Now that I took a closer look, it doesn't work just the
way it used
Ilpo> to. I get a feeling that it is one row behind, when going through
Ilpo> articles one at a time.
If you could clarify that feeling, it'd be a big help :-)
When I do (gnus-configure-windows 'summary t) after going few times to
next article or previous article, the point is at the previous article
I was reading rather than in the article I was in when I did that.
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Ilpo Nyyssönen # biny # /* :-) */
1:15 p.m.
>>>> "Ilpo" == Ilpo Nyyssönen
<iny+dev(a)iki.fi> writes:
Ilpo> sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor])
writes:
Ilpo> Now that I took a closer look, it doesn't work just the way it used
Ilpo> to. I get a feeling that it is one row behind, when going through
Ilpo> articles one at a time.
Ilpo> >
> If you could clarify that feeling, it'd be a big help :-)
Ilpo> When I do (gnus-configure-windows 'summary t) after going few times to
Ilpo> next article or previous article, the point is at the previous article
Ilpo> I was reading rather than in the article I was in when I did that.
Is this one still present in the latest CVS?
--
Cheers =8-} Mike
Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla
1:25 p.m.
sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) writes:
Ilpo> When I do (gnus-configure-windows 'summary t) after
going few times to
Ilpo> next article or previous article, the point is at the previous article
Ilpo> I was reading rather than in the article I was in when I did that.
Is this one still present in the latest CVS?
Yes.
--
Ilpo Nyyssönen # biny # /* :-) */
1:46 p.m.
>>>> "Ilpo" == Ilpo Nyyssönen
<iny+dev(a)iki.fi> writes:
Ilpo> sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) writes:
Ilpo> When I do (gnus-configure-windows 'summary t) after going few times to
Ilpo> next article or previous article, the point is at the previous article
Ilpo> I was reading rather than in the article I was in when I did that.
Hm, I (still) can't reproduce the problem. Can you give more detailed
recipe? Specifically, what do you mean by "going [...] to"?
--
Cheers =8-} Mike
Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla
2:10 p.m.
sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) writes:
>>>>> "Ilpo" == Ilpo Nyyssönen
<iny+dev(a)iki.fi> writes:
Ilpo> sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor])
writes:
Ilpo> When I do (gnus-configure-windows 'summary t) after going few times to
Ilpo> next article or previous article, the point is at the previous article
Ilpo> I was reading rather than in the article I was in when I did that.
Hm, I (still) can't reproduce the problem. Can you give more detailed
recipe? Specifically, what do you mean by "going [...] to"?
As I do the reading in pick mode, the focus is in the article buffer,
but I have the summary buffer visible at the same time too. By going
to the next article I mean that I press for example space bar that
after there is no more pages left in the article goes to the next
article. So the focus is not in the summary buffer.
And as an other thing, the scrolling of the summary might have broken
again with the big patch applied recently.
--
Ilpo Nyyssönen # biny # /* :-) */
2:18 p.m.
>>>> "Ilpo" == Ilpo Nyyssönen
<iny+dev(a)iki.fi> writes:
Ilpo> sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor])
writes:
>>>>>> "Ilpo" == Ilpo
Nyyssönen <iny+dev(a)iki.fi> writes:
Ilpo> >
Ilpo> sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) writes:
Ilpo> >
Ilpo> When I do (gnus-configure-windows 'summary t) after going few times to
Ilpo> next article or previous article, the point is at the previous article
Ilpo> I was reading rather than in the article I was in when I did that.
Ilpo> >
> Hm, I (still) can't reproduce the problem. Can you give more
detailed
> recipe? Specifically, what do you mean by "going [...] to"?
Ilpo> As I do the reading in pick mode, the focus is in the article buffer,
Ilpo> but I have the summary buffer visible at the same time too. By going
Ilpo> to the next article I mean that I press for example space bar that
Ilpo> after there is no more pages left in the article goes to the next
Ilpo> article. So the focus is not in the summary buffer.
Sorry, I've done exactly that for a while, with everything working
perfectly. Maybe someone else can confirm this?
Ilpo> And as an other thing, the scrolling of the summary might have broken
Ilpo> again with the big patch applied recently.
Huh? What exactly do you mean by that?
--
Cheers =8-} Mike
Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla
9:35 a.m.
sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) writes:
Ilpo> And as an other thing, the scrolling of the summary might
have broken
Ilpo> again with the big patch applied recently.
Huh? What exactly do you mean by that?
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta/200212/msg00200.html
That broke again and at least in r21-5-10 it works, but in HEAD it
doesn't.
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Ilpo Nyyssönen # biny # /* :-) */
2:59 p.m.
>>>> "Ilpo" == Ilpo Nyyssönen
<iny+dev(a)iki.fi> writes:
Ilpo> sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor])
writes:
Ilpo> And as an other thing, the scrolling of the summary might have broken
Ilpo> again with the big patch applied recently.
Ilpo> >
> Huh? What exactly do you mean by that?
Ilpo> http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta/200212/msg00200.html
Ilpo> That broke again and at least in r21-5-10 it works, but in HEAD it
Ilpo> doesn't.
What happens if you back out this change?
revision 1.14
date: 2003/01/14 16:54:51; author: michaels; state: Exp; lines: +10 -11
2003-01-10 Mike Sperber <mike(a)xemacs.org>
* window-xemacs.el (window-reduce-to-one): Rewrite in terms of
`delete-other-windows.'
(window-find-buffer-subwindow): Add.
That's the only window-configuration-related change after 21.5.10.
--
Cheers =8-} Mike
Friede, Völkerverständigung und überhaupt blabla
7:45 a.m.
sperber(a)informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) writes:
Ilpo>
http://list-archive.xemacs.org/xemacs-beta/200212/msg00200.html
Ilpo> That broke again and at least in r21-5-10 it works, but in HEAD it
Ilpo> doesn't.
What happens if you back out this change?
revision 1.14
date: 2003/01/14 16:54:51; author: michaels; state: Exp; lines: +10 -11
2003-01-10 Mike Sperber <mike(a)xemacs.org>
* window-xemacs.el (window-reduce-to-one): Rewrite in terms of
`delete-other-windows.'
(window-find-buffer-subwindow): Add.
That's the only window-configuration-related change after 21.5.10.
That's it.
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