3:58 a.m.
There are some ambiguous parts in the current crash message, the
send-pr script is bitrotted, and it's well over a screenful. I
propose the following amendment. Comments welcome.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fatal error (%d).
Your files have been auto-saved.
Use `M-x recover-session' to recover them.
Your version of XEmacs is distributed with a PROBLEMS file that may describe
your crash, and with luck a workaround. Please check it first, but do report
the crash anyway. Please report this bug by invoking M-x report-emacs-bug,
or by selecting `Send Bug Report' from the Help menu. If necessary, send
ordinary email to `crashes(a)xemacs.org'. *MAKE SURE* to include the XEmacs
configuration from M-x describe-installation, or the file Installation in the
top directory of the build tree for *the version that crashed*.
*Please* try *hard* to obtain a C stack backtrace; without it, we are unlikely
to be able to analyze the problem. Locate the core file produced as a result
of this crash (usually called `core', and located in the directory in which
you started the editor, or in your home directory), and type
gdb ... core
then type `where' at the debugger prompt. No GDB on your system? You may
have DBX, or XDB, or SDB. (Ask your system administrator if you need help.)
If no core file was produced, enable them (often with `ulimit -c unlimited')
in case of future recurrance of the crash.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
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My nostalgia for Icon makes me forget about any of the bad things. I don't
have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py
7:05 a.m.
On Thu, 2002-10-10 at 05:58, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
*Please* try *hard* to obtain a C stack backtrace; without it, we are
unlikely
to be able to analyze the problem. Locate the core file produced as a result
of this crash (usually called `core', and located in the directory in which
you started the editor, or in your home directory), and type
Maybe this change would be good to the above:
usually called `core' or `core.<process-id>', and located ...
...or `core.?????' or something. Again, RH8 does this by default.
Otherwise, the new message looks good to me. Perhaps the FAQ's
troubleshooting section [1] should be updated somewhat too (haven't
checked).
[1] <http://www.xemacs.org/FAQ/xemacs-faq_3.html>
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ville.skytta at iki.fi
10:24 a.m.
>>>> "Ville" == Ville Skytt <Ville>
writes:
Ville> Maybe this change would be good to the above:
Ville> usually called `core' or `core.<process-id>', and located
Ville> ...
Ville> ...or `core.?????' or something. Again, RH8 does this by
Ville> default.
OK, I'll see if I can stuff that in. (Space is at a premium, but I'm
unwilling to give up any of the newlines ;-)
Ville> Otherwise, the new message looks good to me. Perhaps the
Ville> FAQ's troubleshooting section [1] should be updated
Ville> somewhat too (haven't checked).
Yeah, definitely we need to do some things with trouble-shooting.
I think I'm going to bite the bullet and make pdump the default. It's
better to have people complaining about nits in a working XEmacs than
sending us "XEmacs crashes in the build process."
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My nostalgia for Icon makes me forget about any of the bad things. I don't
have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py
4:08 p.m.
|--==> "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
SJT> I think I'm going to bite the bullet and make pdump the default.
SJT> It's
Please do (for 21.5 as well).
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4:07 p.m.
|--==> "VS" == Ville Skytt <Ville> writes:
VS> usually called `core' or `core.<process-id>', and located ...
How can I make my core files be created as 'core.<pid>'? This would
be really useful, there's been more than one occasion when a core file
that I haven't finished with was overwritten. :-(
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3:59 p.m.
On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 01:07:48 +1000, Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org> said:
How can I make my core files be created as
'core.<pid>'? This would
be really useful, there's been more than one occasion when a core file
that I haven't finished with was overwritten. :-(
At least for the Linux 2.4/2.5 kernel:
echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/core_uses_pid
should do the trick.
5 p.m.
|--==> "VK" == Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks(a)vt.edu> writes:
VK> On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 01:07:48 +1000, Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org>
said:
>How can I make my core files be created as
'core.<pid>'? This would
>be really useful, there's been more than one occasion when a core file
>that I haven't finished with was overwritten. :-(
VK> At least for the Linux 2.4/2.5 kernel:
VK> echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/core_uses_pid
Perfect! Thank you.
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9:23 p.m.
On Thu, 2002-10-17 at 19:00, Steve Youngs wrote:
|--==> "VK" == Valdis Kletnieks
<Valdis.Kletnieks(a)vt.edu> writes:
VK> On Thu, 17 Oct 2002 01:07:48 +1000, Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org>
said:
>>How can I make my core files be created as 'core.<pid>'? This
would
>>be really useful, there's been more than one occasion when a core file
>>that I haven't finished with was overwritten. :-(
VK> At least for the Linux 2.4/2.5 kernel:
VK> echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/core_uses_pid
Perfect! Thank you.
Or if you use sysctl(8) and want to persist the pid setting, put:
kernel.core_uses_pid = 1
...into /etc/sysctl.conf.
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4:05 p.m.
|--==> "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
SJT> There are some ambiguous parts in the current crash message, the
SJT> send-pr script is bitrotted, and it's well over a screenful. I
SJT> propose the following amendment. Comments welcome.
Looks good to me. I couldn't have put it any better.
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