William> Why the hell does XEmacs still draw multiple 'windows' on William> top of a single X or MS window? Wouldn't life be much William> simpler if each emacs window was a real window in the William> window system? Then you could use sane geometry I rather like that xemacs draws multiple 'windows' on a single X window. If every emacs window were a real window, I'd have to move the mouse or hack C-x o or something to get xemacs to move to the window I want. Besides, doesn't C-x 5 2 do what you want? Ray