It appears that cvs.xemacs.org is unreachable. I include a traceroute done on theworld.com just a few minutes ago: world% traceroute cvs.xemacs.org traceroute to cvs.xemacs.org (130.225.247.90), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 Boston-STD-F.std.com (199.172.62.80) 5 ms 6 ms 7 ms 2 Loopback0.GW3.BOS1.ALTER.NET (137.39.2.142) 25 ms 23 ms 25 ms 3 126.ATM3-0.XR2.BOS1.ALTER.NET (152.63.20.126) 38 ms 4 ms 12 ms 4 190.at-1-1-0.XR2.NYC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.27.246) 36 ms (ttl=251!) 24 ms (ttl=251!) 19 ms (ttl=251!) 5 0.so-1-1-0.XL2.NYC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.19.98) 17 ms (ttl=250!) 25 ms (ttl=250!) 10 ms (ttl=250!) 6 0.so-1-1-0.XL2.NYC8.ALTER.NET (152.63.21.18) 15 ms (ttl=249!) 17 ms (ttl=249!) 15 ms (ttl=249!) 7 POS7-0.BR3.NYC8.ALTER.NET (152.63.21.125) 27 ms 12 ms 16 ms 8 204.255.169.134 (204.255.169.134) 29 ms 28 ms 20 ms 9 sl-bb21-nyc-14-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.7.101) 53 ms 170 ms 21 ms 10 sl-bb21-msq-0-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.9.105) 46 ms (ttl=245!) 36 ms (ttl=245!) 47 ms (ttl=245!) 11 sl-bb20-cop-14-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.19.30) 114 ms (ttl=244!) 108 ms (ttl=244!) 107 ms (ttl=244!) 12 sl-gw10-cop-14-0.sprintlink.net (80.77.64.38) 110 ms (ttl=243!) 115 ms (ttl=243!) 121 ms (ttl=243!) 13 dk-gw2.nordu.net (80.77.65.26) 126 ms (ttl=242!) 117 ms (ttl=242!) 126 ms (ttl=242!) 14 Lyngby-2.forskningsnettet.dk (193.10.68.62) 128 ms (ttl=241!) 105 ms (ttl=241!) 121 ms (ttl=241!) 15 aalborg1.icbackbones.darenet.dk (130.225.242.7) 121 ms (ttl=240!) 107 ms (ttl=240!) 133 ms (ttl=240!) The traceroute simply hangs after entry 15. The hang is true for both theworld.com and our company net which goes throught sprint. If one can beleive the trace, it appears that something is rotten in.... (sorry, couldn't resist that one!) gary