bill, i notice that to do your gtk stuff, you simply copied a lot of the existing X-based code. although this was certainly easier in the short run, it's really a bad idea. you're just begging for bitrot. it means, for example, that if i ever modify the X code [which is highly likely], i'm going to have to make all the changes twice. i really really don't want to have to deal with this. could you please look into avoiding such duplication? it's really pretty easy -- put all common code in another file [e.g. event-xlike.c], and use an extra argument to conditionalize on gtk/x differences when necessary. -- ben I'm sometimes slow in getting around to reading my mail, so if you want to reach me faster, call 520-661-6661. See http://www.666.com/ben/chronic-pain/ for the hell I've been through.