This is a follow-up to my previous message --I tried xemacs without emacspeak loaded and there is no problem with the mark. However I'm confused as to what I could be doing in the emacspeak code that is deactivating the mark. With emacspeak loaded, if I: Hit C-spc to set the mark, cursor over by even one character and hit M-= to see how many chars there are in the region I get a mark not active message. Running with debug-on-error set to t does not help --since the backtrace only shows "the mark is not active now" -- Best Regards, --raman Email: raman(a)cs.cornell.edu WWW: http://cs.cornell.edu/home/raman/ PGP: http://cs.cornell.edu/home/raman/raman.asc