Stephen J Turnbull writes: Reid> I'm currently using version 21.1.14 and still seeing the Reid> problem. I forgot to also note that it happened with 21.2.3x when I tried that some time ago, too. Now I don't feel bad about posting to the beta list! I'm unable to consistently trigger the bug, which is why I figured it's pretty obscure. I've also never seen it other than when I send mail with Gnus. Sorry I can't provide a recipe. I will append my bug report, if anyone is interested. It contains the details and a gdb backtrace. I understand. I've waited this long to ask because I didn't want to seem too forward. I know everyone has day jobs and other priorities, unfortunately.... Thanks for your reply. Reid