Please respect the preferences of others. I don't feel as you do. Kyle> ummm, _I'm_ one of your users. I'm one of your users, too, and like Kyle I prefer the push-mark behavior. Unlike Kyle, I am _not_ sophisticated in the use of the mark ring (although I'm aware of its existence and very occasionally use it) and do run (setq zmacs-regions t). I did notice this most excellent :-) feature, many years ago, and I liked it as soon as I realized what it was doing. I just happen to value the convenience of having those functions change the mark so that I don't have to remember to do so, more than the inconvenience of having to organize my thoughts about the mark so that I don't make (what are as far as I can see) irrelevant cursor movements after setting mark. True, this can cause data loss. Nothing that C-y or M-x undo won't solve, and it's very rare in my experience---thus, my preference. Your [Hrvoje, et al] Mileage Varies Greatly, obviously. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +1 (298) 53-5091