Yup. I do the same. Only not as often as before packaging came. The build process needs more attention now. Hurdles are: 1. To build the Mule-version (as I always do), I need to have mule-base already in the package-path. I wish we could get rid of any build-time dependency on external packages. 2. When building the packages, the non-latin-1 info files won't get built unless one has the texinfo package already installed. Wouldn't it be possible to use the texinfo package that is being built in the same build-process? Well, speaking for me, I start with a completely fresh source, copied over from where I keep my cvs-checkouts. I never build directly in there, maybe from fear that I would fuck something up in there, and would have to refetch the whole thing (which costs time and money, here in Europe). Another reason is that there can't be interference from old stuff into the new build. leo