>>>> "Ben" == Ben Wing <ben(a)666.com>
writes:
> "Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>> "Ben" == Ben
Wing <ben(a)666.com> writes:
>>
Ben> both of you are missing a fundamental point -- the vast majority of users will
Ben> have *all* packages installed. there are hundreds of them -- can you imagine
Ben> hundreds of menu items under Tools?
>
> Like Jan, I don't get it either: There currently *aren't* hundreds of
> menu items under Tools. The selection of packages that do insinuate
> themselves upon autoload seems just right to me: the menu entries tell
> people that the packages exist. Even I, who's been hacking XEmacs for
> more than half a decade, still occasionally find out about an Elisp
> package I hadn't known about before.
but what makes the current packages any better than the ones that
don't
insinuate themselves? lots of those are useful, too. e.g. i personally have no
use whatsoever for ldap, which i'm sure is the same for the majority of users.
>
> This is a problem easily addressed once it actually bothers a user.
it bothers me, esp. the ediff menus. it's NOT easily addressed
-- imagine
convincing 25 separate package maintainers to remove their menus!
The only way I see to reconciliate our viewpoints on this is to provide a
centralized interface to explicitely (de-)activate installed packages,
something like a Custom page with a checkbox for each package.
Oscar