JV> Over the last few months I have had several support requests up with JV> the sourceforge team. They have never been able to figure out what the JV> problem was, and kept closing the case after any action on their JV> part, successfull or not. They were friendly, I hate feeling like just JV> one of the crowd. I have used SF a lot over the past few month and my experience matches Jan's. SF support is highly unpredictable. I would feel uneasy to depend on them exclusively. Adrian Martin> It's probably unfair to expect them to be smarter than you. Martin> But if we had root, we would have been able to actually debug the Martin> problem ourselves. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org