Andy> [Customize buttons] are 3d if you use the appropriate widget Andy> set. Yup. Works for me. Andy> What were you hoping they would be sensitive to? The reset Andy> is not 3d because an appropriate widget does not exist on Andy> all platforms (mainly athena). You mean the button/select-menu thingee? What's wrong with the way it's done with the Lisp widget (namely using a standard button and a popup menu rather than the newfangled popup-menu-in-place-button)? Is this for some reason not doable, or merely unimplemented for lack of time? I've noticed two other bugs btw (old build, 21.2.46 Urania, but I doubt this has changed). (1) the labels are not centered in the native buttons; they're apparently flush right. (Xaw3d widgets.) (2) if you _don't_ select from the reset menu, the reset button stays depressed after the menu disappears. To get it to stay down I need to press the mouse button while on the reset button, then drag to the title area of the popup menu, then release. clicking on the button behaves correctly: the menu pops up and stays, when it pops down the button returns to "up" state. However, clicking on it again brings up the menu and then the button pops back up. (obviously this isn't a native widget issue.) uname -a: Linux tleepslib2 2.2.13 #1 Wed Mar 15 23:15:54 JST 2000 i586 unknown /coda/Projects/XEmacs/21.2-HEAD/configure '--with-mule' '--with-xim=xlib' '--with-widgets=athena' '--with-athena=3d' '--pdump' '--with-xfs' '--srcdir=/coda/Projects/XEmacs/21.2-HEAD' XEmacs 21.2-b46 "Urania" configured for `i586-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /coda/Projects/XEmacs/21.2-HEAD Installation prefix: /usr/local Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wshadow -Wsign-compare Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw3d - Athena library to link: Xaw3d Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Databases: Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. - Using XFontSet to provide bilingual menubar. Compiling in support for Canna on Mule. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Using the new portable dumper. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules."

Andy> At 04:27 PM 5/8/01 +0900, Martin Buchholz wrote: Andy> They are 3d if you use the appropriate widget set. What were you hoping Andy> they would be sensitive to? The reset is not 3d because an appropriate Andy> widget does not exist on all platforms (mainly athena). Actually, the Reset button (the one with the menu) is always 3-d, on every xemacs I tested. Clearly, if the Reset button can be 3-d, then the simpler button without a menu can be 3-d as well. And the code clearly exists, since this all works in 21.1.14. With xemacs-21.5 --without-widgets, the Set, Save, and Done buttons disappear completely. If there is no GUI way to display them (although we know there are, because of 21.1.14), then at least "text" buttons should be used, like in tty mode. BTW, Andy, I can arrange access to my systems, so that you see and debug for yourself. Now you have a "real" internet connection, right?