RT> I just noticed that 21.0-b60 is missing the tm files like RT> tm-au, tm-file, tm-html, etc. RT> They existed in b57 but not in b59 or b60. RT> Are they found somewhere else now? CW> In the tm package, i.e., lib/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lib-src CW> after having installed the newest tm package. That was my first thought. I looked there. I must be blind. I have tm-1.12-pkg.tar.gz, the latest I can find in the xemacs-21.0/packages/binary-packages directory. This tar file doesn't have any lib-src directory in it. Blind as a bat. Ray P.S. I have to ftp things (get-package doesn't work for me), so if installing tm brings other packages, can you tell me what they are.