I'll file a bug on TCSH, the change has to be there. This problem is in
Fedora 22 only, not in Fedora 21. It's also tcsh specific, bash works
fine but I'm notinclined to change to bash, been using csh for 35 years.
On 09/07/2015 01:54 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
B. Joshua Rosen writes:
> The Fedora Xemacs maintainer suggested that I contract you directly
> about this problem. Opening a shell in Xemacs on Fedora 22 gets the
> following error,
> Warning: no access to tty (Inappropriate ioctl for device).
> Thus no job control in this shell.
> I use tcsh as my shell, the problem is tcsh specific. This problem is
> limited to Fedora 22, there is no problem on Fedora 21. Here is a link
> to the bugzilla report
Works for me on Mac OS X (both process-connection-types, but I suspect
Mac doesn't have ptys? as it defaults to nil, in which case this is a
no-op) and on Gentoo Linux (with process-connection-type t, sh and
tsch both work as expected, on nil, both fail as above).
Two things I can think of. First is that somehow tcsh is disabling
use of ptys, which are the preferred way to communicate with
subprocesses on Linux, and using pipes instead. The second is Vin's
change where he moved disconnect_controlling_terminal() later in
unix_create_process (process-unix.c). If playing with those doesn't
help, I don't have a suggestion. The process code is hairy, and
otherwise it hasn't been touched in a decade or so. It also looks a
lot like Emacs's (to the extent that I can tell; there are various
differences in factoring).
By the very fact that it hasn't changed in a while, it's quite
possible that the appropriate place to fix this bug is in XEmacs, but
I suppose there's a good chance that the fastest way to localize the
problem is to figure out what changed in Fedora and correlate that
with the corresponding functionality in XEmacs. Has anybody asked the
Have you tried tcsh in GNU Emacs?
＠Jerry: the last person to do significant work on the process code was
Martin, I think.
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