Ben> btw is anyone maintaining python-mode? Stephen> Yes. I am officially the maintainer, though I have dropped the ball fairly badly. I asked the other day about the magic necessary to do a new release, but haven't done that yet. Ben> (modify-syntax-entry ?\_ "w" py-mode-syntax-table) Ben> imho it is *not* acceptable to have a random deviation like Ben> this. I've never really liked it, but it happened before I got involved with python-mode maintenance, so I never changed it. Regarding Barry's comments about muscle memory, my muscles must be pretty damn stubborn. Even though I program almost exclusively in Python via XEmacs these days (not even much C or Emacs Lisp), I still find myself at the start of a compound identifier like "really_lon_ident" and think to myself, "Ah.. M-f g, that's the ticket", only to wind up at the end of "really_lon_identg". I believe it was Guido who lobbied Barry pretty hard to make it so. Since Barry probably worked for Guido at the time, I can understand his acquiescence. ;-) Skip