Geoffrey> Okay, I updated the package index, and then ran list and Geoffrey> install. However, this does not change the fact that Geoffrey> XEmacs' package for pcl-cvs is 4 months out of date. Oh, now I understand your point. Well, it has always been a problem that elisp packages not designed for XEmacs specifically, have to be tested and tweaked. But now we have a great mechanism to roll out new packages and a very convenient one for the user too. The fundamental fact of having two different Emacs strains remains. Geoffrey> My question remains: What is the expected modus operandi Geoffrey> here for coping with the time lag between XEmacs Geoffrey> packages as compared to the thing they are packages of? Geoffrey> I'm generally a fan of the package as a distribution Geoffrey> concept. However, in the face of ongoing development of Geoffrey> various lisp components, it seems to me that I will be Geoffrey> forced to basically defeat the packaging mechanism and Geoffrey> resort to just installing lisp-vendor products into my Geoffrey> own lisp tree and place that in front of the load path, Geoffrey> just like I used to do before packages. I just packaged up a few little lisp utilities I maintain for a small group of people at work. And it works great! It's just so much more convenient to have an internal package download directory and send the guys a short e-mail saying: please upgrade to the latest packages. Regards, Adrian <lines deleted by Adrian> -- Adrian Aichner Teradyne GmbH, European Design Center Integra Test Division Telephone +49/89/41861(0)-208 Dingolfinger Strasse 2 Fax +49/89/41861-217 (What is a Fax?) D-81673 MUENCHEN E-mail adrian.aichner(a)teradyne.com