The FAQ said to post this to xemacs-beta-request, but that alias does not seem to exist. I apologize for posting the list directly. ... Can you please direct me to the appropriate INSTALL or README.INSTALL? I downloaded Xemacs 20 from the ftp site and WinZip7.0 extracted it into c:\bin\Xemacs. I can't get it to start. I've been thru the FAQ. The backgraound of this is that I am a long time emacs and gnuemacs user and am wanting to try out Xemacs to see which I like best. I currently have NtEmacs installed and running (I have clipped in the 'set' output following the command line output. --Steve Grout Sematech ------------------------------ C:\bin\Xemacs\bin\i686-pc-cygwin32>xemacs -q -no-site-file > startup-ab WARNING: Couldn't find an obvious default for the root of the XEmacs hierarchy. WARNING: Couldn't find obvious defaults for: doc-directory data-directory exec-directory Perhaps some directories don't exist, or the XEmacs executable, /bin/Xemacs/bin/i686-pc-cygwin32/xemacs.exe is in a strange place? C:\bin\Xemacs\bin\i686-pc-cygwin32>dir Volume in drive C has no label. Volume Serial Number is C047-32FA Directory of C:\bin\Xemacs\bin\i686-pc-cygwin32 08/23/99 11:19a <DIR> . 08/23/99 11:19a <DIR> .. 07/02/99 06:59a 300,068 b2m.exe 07/02/99 06:59a 384,936 ctags.exe 12/03/98 08:44p 456,192 cygwin1.dll 07/02/99 06:59a 379,700 etags.exe 07/02/99 06:59a 872 gnuattach 07/02/99 06:59a 311,056 gnuclient.exe 07/02/99 06:59a 1,075 gnudoit 07/02/99 06:59a 381,305 ootags.exe 07/02/99 06:59a 5,402 pstogif 07/02/99 06:59a 3,243 rcs-checkin 07/02/99 06:59a 542,403 runemacs.exe 08/23/99 11:19a 68 startup-abort.log 07/02/99 06:59a 4,516,578 xemacs-21.1-p3.exe 07/02/99 06:59a 4,516,578 xemacs.exe 16 File(s) 11,799,476 bytes 1,072,521,728 bytes free C:\bin\Xemacs\bin\i686-pc-cygwin32>type startup-abort.log Cannot open load file: /build/xemacs/xemacs-20/lisp/auto-autoloads C:\bin\Xemacs\bin\i686-pc-cygwin32> --------------------------------- ClassPath=C:\Program Files\Exceed.nt\hcljrcsv.zip;C:\Program Files\Exceed.nt;c\bin;c:\bin\unix;c:\bin\unixnt;n:\orawin\bin COMPUTERNAME=GROUTS3 COMSPEC=C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe EM_PARENT_PROCESS_ID=309 emacs_dir=C:/bin/emacs-20.4 EMACSDATA=C:/bin/emacs-20.4/etc EMACSDIR=c:\bin\emacs-20.4 EMACSDOC=C:/bin/emacs-20.4/etc EMACSLOADPATH=C:/bin/emacs-20.4/site-lisp;C:/bin/emacs-20.4/lisp EMACSLOCKDIR=C:/bin/emacs-20.4/lock EMACSPATH=C:/bin/emacs-20.4/bin HOME=c:\bin\emacs-20.4 HOMEDRIVE=H: HOMEPATH=\ HOMESHARE=\\share1\myname$ LOGONSERVER=\\whoever MWPATH=C:\MWW32\MANAGER;C:\MWW32\PCMWAVE;C:\MWW32\DSP; NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS=1 OS=Windows_NT Os2LibPath=C:\WINNT\system32\os2\dll; PATH=c:\bin\perl\bin;C:\WINNT\SYSTEM32;C:\WINNT;C:\MWW32\BIN;C:\MWW32\MODEM;c:\bin;c:\bin\unix;c:\bin\unixnt;c:\Program Files\Exceed.nt;C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~1\Office;C:\WINNT\System32\WBEM;c:\Program Files\exceed.nt;c:\bin;c:\bin\unix;c:\bin\unixnt;c:\bin\emacs-20.4\bin;c:\bin\Xemacs\bin\i686-pc-cygwin32;N:\ORAWIN\BIN;C:\ORANT\BIN PATHEXT=.COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE=x86 PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER=x86 Family 6 Model 5 Stepping 0, GenuineIntel PROCESSOR_LEVEL=6 PROCESSOR_REVISION=0500 PROMPT=$P$G SHELL=C:/bin/emacs-20.4/bin/cmdproxy.exe SMS=YES SMS_LOCAL_DIR=C:\WINNT SystemDrive=C: SystemRoot=C:\WINNT TEMP=C:\TEMP TERM=dumb TMP=C:\TEMP TMPDIR=C:\TEMP USERDOMAIN=LOGON USERNAME=myname USERPROFILE=C:\WINNT\Profiles\myname WIDGETDIR=c:\bin\emacs-20.4\site-lisp\custom windir=C:\WINNT