"Bianca Jean" <uuhqvuzkpdq(a)hongkong.com&gt; writes: The real question is, who is that masked man, ZQT? He must be some kind of individual, to merit so many diverse keywords. Decorticate ektachrome moraine compendia, oh mastermind bureaucrat of enviable though modest fiberglas flogging. Modest marksman, derange, yea beat anorthite marksmen, and decorticate my mccall compendia. I couldn't figure out what to do with shawnee christina of annulled hempstead though. 'james -- James A. Crippen <james at unlambda.com> Lambda Unlimited 61.2204N, -149.8964W Recursion 'R' Us Anchorage, Alaska, USA, Earth Y = \f.(\x.f(xx))(\x.f(xx))

Bud> On Wednesday 24 December 2003 05:00, James A. Crippen wrote: Bud> http://bogofilter.sourceforge.net/ Ah, do we have a volunteer to work on the XEmacs Mail Maintenance Team? Your chance at glory and undying gratitude! -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.

On Sunday 28 December 2003 13:07, Bud Rogers wrote: FWIW, it appears the Mailman developers already have something in the works. http://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-developers＠python.org/msg06895.html -- Bud Rogers <budr(a)netride.net&gt; KD5SZ

Mats> Why is posting to the XEmacs list from non-subscribers allowed at all? M-x report-xemacs-bug Malcolm - At least that's my guess. -- Malcolm Purvis <malcolmpurvis(a)optushome.com.au&gt; Q: Why did the chicken cross the Mobius strip? A: To get to the other... uh... err...

Nick> Hey all, If that's the case, why don't we hook up to one of Nick> the RBLs? That ought to get rid of almost all of the spam we Nick> see on this list... (1) RBLs suck. They're about "guilty until proven innocent." I've been RBL'd twice (not by the real RBL, but by one of the more aggressive wannabes) on the basis (apparently) of forged Received headers. AFAICT most spam comes from dialup/DSL addresses anyway, which means that you either ban whole netblocks or you can't do much with them except prevent the legit user who gets assigned that IP next from sending us mail. (2) RBLs suck bandwidth like crazy, and chew up CPU cycles and memory blocking until they return. Neither of these is polite to our host. In general, we have to think of ourselves as a common carrier. We should not do many things that are perfectly reasonable for an individual user. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.

Malcolm> M-x report-xemacs-bug Malcolm> Malcolm - At least that's my guess. Mats> OK that is fair enough but doesn't explain why the other Mats> XEmacs lists allows for anonymous postings. (1) gmane. Some of our most valuable users use gmane, rather than subscribe. Others use the archives. (A typical example of the kind of thing we have to worry about that individual users don't.) (2) I just disposed of 180 spams to xemacs-announce which only accepts posts from a _very_ short list of addresses. Unfortunately until we get somebody with the time to work on it, we don't have an up to the minute Mailman installation, so we have no way to reject spams except by hand. Mats> And if only bug reports were allowed to be anonymous I guess Mats> there could be some easy filtering that would remove some Mats> 99% of the spam. That's about what we were getting until the recent spate of spams that spamassassin doesn't catch. We cannot try to hide our addresses. That means that every dung beetle and stink bug that crawls the web will pick up our addresses. We get a _lot_ of spam. The obvious temporary solution is to use challenge-and-whitelist. Whether that will work very long depends on whether there are spammers unscrupulous enough to specifically target lists. If there are, they will soon enough start distributing addresses as to/from pairs, which will get them auto-approved by challenge-and-whitelist systems. The problem, once again, is a lack of manpower to upgrade the Mailman installed at our host. (Note that this is another typical example of a strategy that is basically unbreakable for individual users, but can easily be worked around for a list.) -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.