Gerald Gutierrez <gutier(a)intergate.bc.ca&gt; writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: "Lucid Emacs" died over five year ago. For better or for worse, it is XEmacs now. No. No. The major sticking point that caused separation was the fact that Richard was not satisfied with the way Sun handled the GPL-ization of the code they sponsored in Lucid Emacs and XEmacs. This cannot have been the real reason because the Mule code he has been adding to Emacs 20 isn't FSF copyright assigned and will never be FSF copyright assigned. Since it is entirely owned by a non-US government I sincerely doubt he has any legal recourse whatsoever in a US court should the situation change (unlike with a US corporation like Sun Microsystems) and according to what I've been told here, he doesn't have legal recourse in a Japanese court either. Since when it suits his purposes, he uses non-FSF copyright assigned code, I fail to see why I should care, so long as I am using GPL'ed code. Yes, no. At the moment they are busy reimplementing the XEmacs redisplay engine (incompatibly of course).