1:29 p.m.
This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team,
not to your local site managers!!
Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have
translators to read other languages for them.
Please describe as succinctly as possible:
- What happened.
- What you thought should have happened.
- Precisely what you were doing at the time.
Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have.
================================================================
Dear Bug Team!
I have compiled XEmacs 21.4.8 by myself and it worked without
errors. But since the first time I ran it the buffers tab does not
appear. The menu option "Options/Display/Buffers Tab Visible" *is*
checked.
Previously I was using XEmacs 21.4.6 that came with Linux Mandrake 8.2
and the buffers tab was showing. Should I stay with this older
version?
My configuration is: Pentium III 933 Mhz, 196 MB RAM, 125 MB swap,
Mandrake Linux 8.2, Window Maker 0.8.0.
================================================================
System Info to help track down your bug:
---------------------------------------
uname -a: Linux caravelas.beg.com.br 2.4.18-6mdk #1 Fri Mar 15 02:59:08
CET 2002 i686 unknown
./configure '--with-sound=esd'
XEmacs 21.4.8 "Honest Recruiter" configured for `i686-pc-linux'.
Compilation / Installation:
Source code location: /usr/local/src/xemacs-21.4.8
Installation prefix: /usr/local
Operating system description file: `s/linux.h'
Machine description file: `m/intel386.h'
Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch
-Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wsign-compare -Wshadow
Relocating allocator for buffers: no
GNU version of malloc: yes
- Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library.
Linking with `-z nocombreloc'.
- Consider configuring with --pdump.
Window System:
Compiling in support for the X window system:
- X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include
- X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib
- Handling WM_COMMAND properly.
Using Lucid menubars.
Using Lucid scrollbars.
TTY:
Compiling in support for ncurses.
Images:
Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin).
Compiling in support for XPM images.
Compiling in support for PNG images.
Compiling in support for JPEG images.
Compiling in support for TIFF images.
Sound:
Compiling in support for sound (native).
Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon).
Databases:
Compiling in support for Berkeley database.
Internationalization:
Mail:
Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method.
Other Features:
Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup.
Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules.
Load-Path Lisp Shadows:
----------------------
nil
Installed XEmacs Packages:
-------------------------
((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular)
(xslt-process :version 1.07 :type regular)
(xslide :version 1.02 :type regular)
(xemacs-devel :version 1.44 :type single-file)
(xemacs-base :version 1.63 :type regular)
(w3 :version 1.23 :type regular)
(vm :version 7.04 :type regular)
(viper :version 1.34 :type regular)
(view-process :version 1.11 :type regular)
(vhdl :version 1.15 :type regular)
(vc-cc :version 1.18 :type regular)
(vc :version 1.3 :type regular)
(tramp :version 1.05 :type regular)
(tpu :version 1.12 :type regular)
(tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular)
(tm :version 1.32 :type regular)
(time :version 1.11 :type regular)
(textools :version 1.12 :type regular)
(text-modes :version 1.43 :type single-file)
(texinfo :version 1.2 :type regular)
(supercite :version 1.19 :type regular)
(strokes :version 1.08 :type regular)
(speedbar :version 1.23 :type regular)
(sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular)
(sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular)
(slider :version 1.13 :type regular)
(sieve :version 1.02 :type regular)
(sh-script :version 1.15 :type regular)
(sgml :version 1.08 :type regular)
(semantic :version 1.12 :type regular)
(scheme :version 1.11 :type regular)
(rmail :version 1.13 :type regular)
(reftex :version 1.25 :type regular)
(psgml :version 1.28 :type regular)
(ps-print :version 1.04 :type regular)
(prog-modes
:version
1
.56
:type
single-file)
(pcomplete :version 1.01 :type regular)
(pcl-cvs :version 1.61 :type regular)
(pc :version 1.22 :type single-file)
(os-utils :version 1.28 :type single-file)
(net-utils :version 1.24 :type single-file)
(mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular)
(misc-games :version 1.15 :type single-file)
(mine :version 1.14 :type regular)
(mh-e :version 1.14 :type regular)
(mew :version 1.17 :type regular)
(mailcrypt :version 2.11 :type regular)
(mail-lib :version 1.46 :type regular)
(liece :version 1.04 :type regular)
(jde :version 1.35 :type regular)
(ispell :version 1.24 :type regular)
(ilisp :version 1.22 :type regular)
(igrep :version 1.08 :type regular)
(idlwave :version 1.25 :type regular)
(ibuffer :version 1.07 :type regular)
(hm--html-menus :version 1.18 :type regular)
(haskell-mode :version 1.04 :type regular)
(gnus :version 1.6 :type regular)
(gnats :version 1.14 :type regular)
(games :version 1.13 :type regular)
(fsf-compat :version 1.11 :type single-file)
(frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular)
(forms :version 1.14 :type regular)
(footnote :version 1.15 :type regular)
(eudc :version 1.36 :type regular)
(eterm :version 1.13 :type regular)
(eshell :version 1.03 :type regular)
(emerge :version 1.09 :type regular)
(elib :version 1.1 :type single-file)
(eieio :version 1.02 :type regular)
(efs :version 1.29 :type regular)
(edt :version 1.12 :type regular)
(edit-utils :version 1.85 :type single-file)
(ediff :version 1.41 :type regular)
(edebug :version 1.14 :type regular)
(dired :version 1.12 :type regular)
(dictionary :version 1.11 :type regular)
(debug :version 1.15 :type regular)
(crisp :version 1.12 :type regular)
(cookie :version 1.14 :type regular)
(clearcase :version 1.03 :type regular)
(cc-mode :version 1.28 :type regular)
(calendar :version 1.18 :type regular)
(calc :version 1.23 :type regular)
(c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file)
(build :version 1.05 :type regular)
(bbdb :version 1.2 :type regular)
(auctex :version 1.31 :type regular)
(apel :version 1.23 :type regular)
(ada :version 1.1 :type regular))
Features:
--------
(mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 paren blink-paren
scroll-in-place rsz-minibuf func-menu font-lock filladapt crypt
crypt++ completer efs-cu efs-x19.15 efs-fnh efs-ovwrt efs-auto
cus-face dired-faces dired-xemacs dired pending-del zenirc-autoloads
xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads
xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads
view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads
tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads
time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads
texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads
speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads
slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads
semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads
psgml-autoloads ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads
pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads
net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads
mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads
mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads
ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads
hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads gnus-autoloads
gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads
frame-icon-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads
eterm-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads
eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads
ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads
debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads
cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads
c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads
apel-autoloads ada-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show
fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar
mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page
buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props
obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages
backquote very-early-lisp lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars x
c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar esd-sound native-sound scrollbar
unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules
menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db md5 xemacs gutter tiff
png gif jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type linux devices window-system
base64)
Recent keystrokes:
-----------------
M-x button2 button2up BS C-a DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL
C-e BS TAB RET
Recent messages (most recent first):
-----------------------------------
Loading xemacsbug...done
Loading xemacsbug...
Paren mode is paren
Loading paren...done
Loading paren...
Loading rsz-minibuf...done
Loading rsz-minibuf...
Loading cus-face...done
Loading cus-face...
Loading sounds...done
Loading sounds...
Loading sound...done
Loading sound...
Loading pending-del...done
Loading pending-del...
2:13 p.m.
>>>> "Geraldo" == Geraldo Amaral Filho
<geraldo(a)beg.com.br> writes:
Geraldo> This bug report will be sent to the XEmacs Development Team,
Geraldo> not to your local site managers!!
Geraldo> Please write in English, because the XEmacs maintainers do not have
Geraldo> translators to read other languages for them.
Geraldo> Please describe as succinctly as possible:
Geraldo> - What happened.
Geraldo> - What you thought should have happened.
Geraldo> - Precisely what you were doing at the time.
Geraldo> Please also include any C or lisp back-traces that you may have.
Geraldo> ================================================================
Geraldo> Dear Bug Team!
Geraldo> I have compiled XEmacs 21.4.8 by myself and it worked without
Geraldo> errors. But since the first time I ran it the buffers tab does not
Geraldo> appear. The menu option "Options/Display/Buffers Tab Visible"
*is*
Geraldo> checked.
Hi Geraldo!
Do you get any errors when you toggle
Options/Display/Buffers Tab Visible
?
Does the toggling not make the tabs visible/invisible?
Geraldo> Previously I was using XEmacs 21.4.6 that came with Linux
Geraldo> Mandrake 8.2 and the buffers tab was showing. Should I
Geraldo> stay with this older version?
I don't think so.
Try enabling buffers tabs this way:
(custom-set-variables '(gutter-buffers-tab-visible-p t))
or disabling this way:
(custom-set-variables '(gutter-buffers-tab-visible-p nil))
just for debugging purposes.
See also
C-h n (view-emacs-news)
Let us know what you find.
Best regards,
Adrian
Geraldo> My configuration is: Pentium III 933 Mhz, 196 MB RAM, 125 MB swap,
Geraldo> Mandrake Linux 8.2, Window Maker 0.8.0.
Geraldo> ================================================================
Geraldo> System Info to help track down your bug:
Geraldo> ---------------------------------------
Geraldo> uname -a: Linux caravelas.beg.com.br 2.4.18-6mdk #1 Fri Mar 15
Geraldo> 02:59:08 CET 2002 i686 unknown
Geraldo> ./configure '--with-sound=esd'
Geraldo> XEmacs 21.4.8 "Honest Recruiter" configured for
`i686-pc-linux'.
Geraldo> Compilation / Installation:
Geraldo> Source code location: /usr/local/src/xemacs-21.4.8
Geraldo> Installation prefix: /usr/local
Geraldo> Operating system description file: `s/linux.h'
Geraldo> Machine description file: `m/intel386.h'
Geraldo> Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes
Geraldo> -Wsign-compare -Wshadow
Geraldo> Relocating allocator for buffers: no
Geraldo> GNU version of malloc: yes
Geraldo> - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library.
Geraldo> Linking with `-z nocombreloc'.
Geraldo> - Consider configuring with --pdump.
Geraldo> Window System:
Geraldo> Compiling in support for the X window system:
Geraldo> - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include
Geraldo> - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib
Geraldo> - Handling WM_COMMAND properly.
Geraldo> Using Lucid menubars.
Geraldo> Using Lucid scrollbars.
Geraldo> TTY:
Geraldo> Compiling in support for ncurses.
Geraldo> Images:
Geraldo> Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin).
Geraldo> Compiling in support for XPM images.
Geraldo> Compiling in support for PNG images.
Geraldo> Compiling in support for JPEG images.
Geraldo> Compiling in support for TIFF images.
Geraldo> Sound:
Geraldo> Compiling in support for sound (native).
Geraldo> Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon).
Geraldo> Databases:
Geraldo> Compiling in support for Berkeley database.
Geraldo> Internationalization:
Geraldo> Mail:
Geraldo> Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking
method.
Geraldo> Other Features:
Geraldo> Inhibiting IPv6 canonicalization at startup.
Geraldo> Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules.
Geraldo> Load-Path Lisp Shadows:
Geraldo> ----------------------
Geraldo> nil
Geraldo> Installed XEmacs Packages:
Geraldo> -------------------------
Geraldo> ((zenirc:version 1.13 :type regular)
Geraldo> (xslt-process :version 1.07 :type regular)
Geraldo> (xslide :version 1.02 :type regular)
Geraldo> (xemacs-devel :version 1.44 :type single-file)
Geraldo> (xemacs-base :version 1.63 :type regular)
Geraldo> (w3 :version 1.23 :type regular)
Geraldo> (vm :version 7.04 :type regular)
Geraldo> (viper :version 1.34 :type regular)
Geraldo> (view-process :version 1.11 :type regular)
Geraldo> (vhdl :version 1.15 :type regular)
Geraldo> (vc-cc :version 1.18 :type regular)
Geraldo> (vc :version 1.3 :type regular)
Geraldo> (tramp :version 1.05 :type regular)
Geraldo> (tpu :version 1.12 :type regular)
Geraldo> (tooltalk :version 1.13 :type regular)
Geraldo> (tm :version 1.32 :type regular)
Geraldo> (time :version 1.11 :type regular)
Geraldo> (textools :version 1.12 :type regular)
Geraldo> (text-modes :version 1.43 :type single-file)
Geraldo> (texinfo :version 1.2 :type regular)
Geraldo> (supercite :version 1.19 :type regular)
Geraldo> (strokes :version 1.08 :type regular)
Geraldo> (speedbar :version 1.23 :type regular)
Geraldo> (sounds-wav :version 1.1 :type regular)
Geraldo> (sounds-au :version 1.1 :type regular)
Geraldo> (slider :version 1.13 :type regular)
Geraldo> (sieve :version 1.02 :type regular)
Geraldo> (sh-script :version 1.15 :type regular)
Geraldo> (sgml :version 1.08 :type regular)
Geraldo> (semantic :version 1.12 :type regular)
Geraldo> (scheme :version 1.11 :type regular)
Geraldo> (rmail :version 1.13 :type regular)
Geraldo> (reftex :version 1.25 :type regular)
Geraldo> (psgml :version 1.28 :type regular)
Geraldo> (ps-print :version 1.04 :type regular)
Geraldo> (prog-modes
Geraldo> :version
Geraldo> 1
Geraldo> .56
Geraldo> :type
Geraldo> single-file)
Geraldo> (pcomplete :version 1.01 :type regular)
Geraldo> (pcl-cvs :version 1.61 :type regular)
Geraldo> (pc :version 1.22 :type single-file)
Geraldo> (os-utils :version 1.28 :type single-file)
Geraldo> (net-utils :version 1.24 :type single-file)
Geraldo> (mmm-mode :version 1.0 :type regular)
Geraldo> (misc-games :version 1.15 :type single-file)
Geraldo> (mine :version 1.14 :type regular)
Geraldo> (mh-e :version 1.14 :type regular)
Geraldo> (mew :version 1.17 :type regular)
Geraldo> (mailcrypt :version 2.11 :type regular)
Geraldo> (mail-lib :version 1.46 :type regular)
Geraldo> (liece :version 1.04 :type regular)
Geraldo> (jde :version 1.35 :type regular)
Geraldo> (ispell :version 1.24 :type regular)
Geraldo> (ilisp :version 1.22 :type regular)
Geraldo> (igrep :version 1.08 :type regular)
Geraldo> (idlwave :version 1.25 :type regular)
Geraldo> (ibuffer :version 1.07 :type regular)
Geraldo> (hm--html-menus :version 1.18 :type regular)
Geraldo> (haskell-mode :version 1.04 :type regular)
Geraldo> (gnus :version 1.6 :type regular)
Geraldo> (gnats :version 1.14 :type regular)
Geraldo> (games :version 1.13 :type regular)
Geraldo> (fsf-compat :version 1.11 :type single-file)
Geraldo> (frame-icon :version 1.09 :type regular)
Geraldo> (forms :version 1.14 :type regular)
Geraldo> (footnote :version 1.15 :type regular)
Geraldo> (eudc :version 1.36 :type regular)
Geraldo> (eterm :version 1.13 :type regular)
Geraldo> (eshell :version 1.03 :type regular)
Geraldo> (emerge :version 1.09 :type regular)
Geraldo> (elib :version 1.1 :type single-file)
Geraldo> (eieio :version 1.02 :type regular)
Geraldo> (efs :version 1.29 :type regular)
Geraldo> (edt :version 1.12 :type regular)
Geraldo> (edit-utils :version 1.85 :type single-file)
Geraldo> (ediff :version 1.41 :type regular)
Geraldo> (edebug :version 1.14 :type regular)
Geraldo> (dired :version 1.12 :type regular)
Geraldo> (dictionary :version 1.11 :type regular)
Geraldo> (debug :version 1.15 :type regular)
Geraldo> (crisp :version 1.12 :type regular)
Geraldo> (cookie :version 1.14 :type regular)
Geraldo> (clearcase :version 1.03 :type regular)
Geraldo> (cc-mode :version 1.28 :type regular)
Geraldo> (calendar :version 1.18 :type regular)
Geraldo> (calc :version 1.23 :type regular)
Geraldo> (c-support :version 1.16 :type single-file)
Geraldo> (build :version 1.05 :type regular)
Geraldo> (bbdb :version 1.2 :type regular)
Geraldo> (auctex :version 1.31 :type regular)
Geraldo> (apel :version 1.23 :type regular)
Geraldo> (ada :version 1.1 :type regular))
Geraldo> Features:
Geraldo> --------
Geraldo> (mail-abbrevs xemacsbug shadow sendmail rfc822 paren blink-paren
Geraldo> scroll-in-place rsz-minibuf func-menu font-lock filladapt crypt
Geraldo> crypt++ completer efs-cu efs-x19.15 efs-fnh efs-ovwrt efs-auto
Geraldo> cus-face dired-faces dired-xemacs dired pending-del zenirc-autoloads
Geraldo> xslt-process-autoloads xslide-autoloads xemacs-devel-autoloads
Geraldo> xemacs-base-autoloads w3-autoloads vm-autoloads viper-autoloads
Geraldo> view-process-autoloads vhdl-autoloads vc-cc-autoloads vc-autoloads
Geraldo> tramp-autoloads tpu-autoloads tooltalk-autoloads tm-autoloads
Geraldo> time-autoloads textools-autoloads text-modes-autoloads
Geraldo> texinfo-autoloads supercite-autoloads strokes-autoloads
Geraldo> speedbar-autoloads sounds-wav-autoloads sounds-au-autoloads
Geraldo> slider-autoloads sieve-autoloads sh-script-autoloads sgml-autoloads
Geraldo> semantic-autoloads scheme-autoloads rmail-autoloads reftex-autoloads
Geraldo> psgml-autoloads ps-print-autoloads prog-modes-autoloads
Geraldo> pcomplete-autoloads pcl-cvs-autoloads pc-autoloads os-utils-autoloads
Geraldo> net-utils-autoloads mmm-mode-autoloads misc-games-autoloads
Geraldo> mine-autoloads mh-e-autoloads mew-autoloads mailcrypt-autoloads
Geraldo> mail-lib-autoloads liece-autoloads jde-autoloads ispell-autoloads
Geraldo> ilisp-autoloads igrep-autoloads idlwave-autoloads ibuffer-autoloads
Geraldo> hm--html-menus-autoloads haskell-mode-autoloads gnus-autoloads
Geraldo> gnats-autoloads games-autoloads fsf-compat-autoloads
Geraldo> frame-icon-autoloads forms-autoloads footnote-autoloads eudc-autoloads
Geraldo> eterm-autoloads eshell-autoloads emerge-autoloads elib-autoloads
Geraldo> eieio-autoloads efs-autoloads edt-autoloads edit-utils-autoloads
Geraldo> ediff-autoloads edebug-autoloads dired-autoloads dictionary-autoloads
Geraldo> debug-autoloads crisp-autoloads cookie-autoloads clearcase-autoloads
Geraldo> cc-mode-autoloads calendar-autoloads calc-autoloads
Geraldo> c-support-autoloads build-autoloads bbdb-autoloads auctex-autoloads
Geraldo> apel-autoloads ada-autoloads lisp-autoloads loadhist auto-show
Geraldo> fontl-hooks x-iso8859-1 gutter-items menubar-items x-menubar
Geraldo> mode-motion mouse itimer auto-save lisp-mode easymenu iso8859-1 page
Geraldo> buff-menu lib-complete help-nomule cus-file derived frame text-props
Geraldo> obsolete cus-start custom widget cl-extra mini-cl cl cl-19 packages
Geraldo> backquote very-early-lisp lucid-scrollbars cut-buffer lucid-menubars x
Geraldo> c-balloon-help tty-frames tty toolbar esd-sound native-sound scrollbar
Geraldo> unix-processes multicast network-streams subprocesses modules
Geraldo> menu-accelerator-support menubar berkeley-db md5 xemacs gutter tiff
Geraldo> png gif jpeg xpm xbm lisp-float-type linux devices window-system
Geraldo> base64)
Geraldo> Recent keystrokes:
Geraldo> -----------------
Geraldo> M-x button2 button2up BS C-a DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL DEL
Geraldo> C-e BS TAB RET
Geraldo> Recent messages (most recent first):
Geraldo> -----------------------------------
Geraldo> Loading xemacsbug...done
Geraldo> Loading xemacsbug...
Geraldo> Paren mode is paren
Geraldo> Loading paren...done
Geraldo> Loading paren...
Geraldo> Loading rsz-minibuf...done
Geraldo> Loading rsz-minibuf...
Geraldo> Loading cus-face...done
Geraldo> Loading cus-face...
Geraldo> Loading sounds...done
Geraldo> Loading sounds...
Geraldo> Loading sound...done
Geraldo> Loading sound...
Geraldo> Loading pending-del...done
Geraldo> Loading pending-del...
--
Adrian Aichner
mailto:adrianï¼ xemacs.org
http://www.xemacs.org/
3:30 p.m.
>>>> "GAF" == Geraldo Amaral Filho
<geraldo(a)beg.com.br> writes:
GAF> ./configure '--with-sound=esd'
In order to get widgets you need --with-widgets.
This is very complex and platform-dependent; see configure --usage.
Descriptions with respect to what is autodetected etc may not be
accurate for your platform.
You may be missing some necessary libraries, or their *-dev.rpm's.
GAF> Window System:
GAF> Compiling in support for the X window system:
GAF> - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include
GAF> - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib
GAF> - Handling WM_COMMAND properly.
GAF> Using Lucid menubars.
GAF> Using Lucid scrollbars.
See? No widgets. Should say:
Using Athena dialog boxes.
Using Athena native widgets.
or something like that.
--
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My nostalgia for Icon makes me forget about any of the bad things. I don't
have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py
4:24 p.m.
At 11:30 PM 7/2/02 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
In order to get widgets you need --with-widgets.
This is very complex and platform-dependent; see configure --usage.
Descriptions with respect to what is autodetected etc may not be
accurate for your platform.
Right, but didn't we stop auto-detecting at some point (late) in the
release cycle. Can we fix this please? Pretty please?
Maybe we can co-opt Daniel to take another look at whatever the latest
complaint was. I thought it worked pretty well before.
andy
5 p.m.
>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper <andyp(a)bea.com>
writes:
Andy> Right, but didn't we stop auto-detecting at some point
Andy> (late) in the release cycle.
Not intentionally; it's a side effect of fixing other breakage.
We currently turn off widgets in the following circumstances:
1) the user has --with-widgets=no
2) X11R4 is detected
3) we fall through to "lucid" and neither Athena nor Motif has been
detected by that point
So there's evidently something buggy in detection of Athena (or less
likely, Motif), or in the order of tests, but that is such a mess I
hesitate to fool with it. If Dan or Jan (Jan touched it last, IIRC)
wants to try....
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My nostalgia for Icon makes me forget about any of the bad things. I don't
have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py
5:11 p.m.
At 01:00 AM 7/3/02 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
Not intentionally; it's a side effect of fixing other breakage.
Ok, if its not intentional I will take another look.
We currently turn off widgets in the following circumstances:
1) the user has --with-widgets=no
2) X11R4 is detected
3) we fall through to "lucid" and neither Athena nor Motif has been
detected by that point
This all seems reasonable.
So there's evidently something buggy in detection of Athena (or
less
Right.
likely, Motif), or in the order of tests, but that is such a mess I
hesitate to fool with it. If Dan or Jan (Jan touched it last, IIRC)
wants to try....
Jan's fix simply made sure that Motif did in fact get used when it was
detected (or something of that order). I think we still switch off if all
we can detect is Athena.
andy
5:40 p.m.
>>>> "Andy" == Andy Piper <andyp(a)bea.com>
writes:
Andy> Jan's fix simply made sure that Motif did in fact get used
Andy> when it was detected (or something of that order). I think
Andy> we still switch off if all we can detect is Athena.
Here's the code:
case "$with_widgets" in "" | "yes" | "lucid")
if test "$have_motif" = "yes"; then
with_widgets="motif"
elif test "$have_xaw" = "yes"; then
with_widgets="athena"
else with_widgets=no
fi ;;
esac
I have to read that as "oops, have_xaw != yes" here. Perhaps this is
the problem:
dnl We don't automatically trigger widgets if athena is present
dnl because of stability concerns.
dnl But if the user wants widgets, still offer him autodetections
case "$with_widgets" in
"yes" | "athena") detect_athena=yes ;;
*) detect_athena=no ;;
esac
Do you have any idea what the "stability concerns" were?
Jan? That looks like it's from your commit of 2002-01-09.
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My nostalgia for Icon makes me forget about any of the bad things. I don't
have much nostalgia for Perl, so its faults I remember. Scott Gilbert c.l.py
10:17 p.m.
[Sorry for my current inactivity, especially on the syntax cache
issue. This time I do have a particularly good excuse for not giving
XEmacs my full atention of the last few months: I have only just
returned from my wedding in Holland and our honeymoon. :-). Please
tell me if my help is still needed, I'll try and squeeze in some time]
dnl We don't automatically trigger widgets if athena is present
dnl because of stability concerns.
dnl But if the user wants widgets, still offer him autodetections
case "$with_widgets" in
"yes" | "athena") detect_athena=yes ;;
*) detect_athena=no ;;
esac
Do you have any idea what the "stability concerns" were?
Jan? That looks like it's from your commit of 2002-01-09.
Although I wrote that comment, I was just documenting the then status quo.
IIRC it was turned off earlier, by you even, with the reason being that
1. athena tab widget in particular being not so robust
2. Loads of suspicous X warnings being generated
3. Continuing detection problems on Debian
you thought it was safer to accept a patch defaulting it to off when only
athena was present.
Maybe this situation has changed now.
What my change was that IF the user said --with-widgets=yes, but then
we should at least try and be helpfull and try and find athena for him.
Is this causing some problem? [sorry for not reading the thread but the account
that is subscribed to the mailing lists is megabytes behind]
Jan
3:03 p.m.
New subject: buffers tab does not appear - now it apears :)
At 11:30 PM 7/2/02 +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
In order to get widgets you need --with-widgets.
It worked! The problem was the option Stephen mentioned, I ran
"configure" with: "--with-widgets=athena", and after building and
running XEmacs, the buffer tab was there! :-)
Thank you guys,
Geraldo
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