Rick Campbell <rick(a)campbellcentral.org&gt; writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: ... Both. As far as I know, no lightning struck the .mil people who had PGP available for public download for many months. XEmacs is small fry and we have done such civil disobedience in the grey area of Mailcrypt since before my time. It contains crypto hooks and thus is barred by the EAR. I'm rethinking[1] the issue now that I have to pass through customs early next year. cvs.xemacs.org is in Japan as far as I'm concerned. As far as I know. irchat will *not* be put into any InfoDock release. My official position on XEmacs packages (even those included in a SUMO tarball) is that they are optional only, not part of XEmacs proper and should not be considered part of XEmacs. Footnotes: [1] I've chmod'ed the tarballs on ftp.xemacs.org to 0 while I'm thinking.