Re: port x-symbol to GNU emacs 24.
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Uwe Brauer <oub(a)mat.ucm.es> writes:
> What features are those you don't see elsewhere in Emacs?
(I'm
> specifically asking about GNU Emacs, not XEmacs.)
I think a picture says more than 1000 words, here is a screenshot. (I
hope it will not be blocked).
Actually, it doesn't. This screenshot is not dissimilar what you'll get
from using AUCTeX, preview-latex and TeX-fold-mode.
The main "not elsewhere" category I see are XEmacs' extensive input
modes (grid which is sort of a buffer-based menu, keyboard input methods
quite better sorted and convenient than what Quail offers and with
better feedback). Its buffer reencoding is a rather mixed blessing, but
it works with more than just TeX modes.
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David Kastrup
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Monday, 17 August
Mon, 17 Aug
2:29 a.m.
New subject: port x-symbol to GNU emacs 24.
David Kastrup writes:
[XEmacs's] buffer reencoding is a rather mixed blessing,
What do you mean by "buffer reencoding"? We decode external streams
to Mule encoding on input, and then encode them as specified on
output. "Reencoding" (duplicate encoding or transcoding) of buffer
text occurs only if explicitly requested by a Lisp program or as a
user command.
If you mean the fact that XEmacs can't handle the buggy output of TeX
(which produces invalid UTF-8 in error messages), that's a non-standard
encoding we'd like to implement, but the bug is in TeX, not in XEmacs.
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David Kastrup
Monday, 17 August
Mon, 17 Aug
3:57 a.m.
New subject: port x-symbol to GNU emacs 24.
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
David Kastrup writes:
> [XEmacs's] buffer reencoding is a rather mixed blessing,
What do you mean by "buffer reencoding"?
This earns you a major "Huh?!?" but indeed, looking up the Email you
replied to, it is
The main "not elsewhere" category I see are XEmacs' extensive input
modes (grid which is sort of a buffer-based menu, keyboard input
methods quite better sorted and convenient than what Quail offers
and with better feedback). Its buffer reencoding is a rather mixed
blessing, but it works with more than just TeX modes.
If you replace the brain fart/typo "XEmacs'" with
"X-Symbol's", the
paragraph makes wagonloads more sense as the topic of discussion never
was XEmacs. So I've been neither singing XEmacs' praises here nor
complaining about it. This is about X-Symbol.
We decode external streams to Mule encoding on input, and then
encode
them as specified on output. "Reencoding" (duplicate encoding or
transcoding) of buffer text occurs only if explicitly requested by a
Lisp program or as a user command.
X-Symbol is such a "Lisp program". And its core operation works via
buffer reencoding. Whether running on Emacs or XEmacs.
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Monday, 17 August
Mon, 17 Aug
11:59 a.m.
New subject: port x-symbol to GNU emacs 24.
David Kastrup writes:
If you replace the brain fart/typo "XEmacs'" with
"X-Symbol's", the
paragraph makes wagonloads more sense as the topic of discussion
never was XEmacs.
Indeed it does, although I was also confused by "re-encoding". I
wouldn't call what X-Symbol does "re-encoding", I'd call it
"translating". (What you call it is up to you, now that you've
explained I can live with "re-encoding". I'm explaining why the
typo wasn't obvious to me.)
Thanks for explaining.
Steve
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