Andy Piper <andyp(a)parallax.co.uk&gt; writes: Restarting does not work with customize. I need to add the set-face call manually into .emacs. Changing visibility or captions also did not work. Only restarting after the thing was added to .emacs (not the custom!), or starting a thing that creates a new toolbar. Nope. Attached is a pic showing modeline and toolbar of an xemacs started WITH the custom: '(toolbar ((t (:background "gray80"))) t) in my .emacs, but without the set-face call. All toolbars after this one are OK with the custom set. Only the first is white in background... Regards, Oliver.