After the latest round of patches gdb now SEGV's on me if I try and print out lisp objects - e.g. doing ldp when I have loaded .gdbinit. I have no idea what the cause might be, but it worked fairly recently and its pretty annoying when you are trying to debug stuff. Hmm, ok this fixes it: 2000-07-29 Andy Piper <andy(a)xemacs.org&gt; * print.c (debug_print_no_newline): only write to debugger if in WIN32_NATIVE. andy -------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Andy Piper Principal Consultant, BEA Systems Ltd