BTW, bug-gnu-emacs is not a good place to send bug reports for XEmacs, especially in add-on Lisp library configuration cases. The initialization processes and the range of add-on libraries vary greatly. The GNU Project also strongly discourages their developers from looking at our code, so they won't know much about any of it. Justin> Wrong lemacs version ("XEmacs 21.1 (patch 9) \"Canyonlands\" [Lucid] Justin> (sparc-sun-solaris2.6) of Tue Apr 4 2000 on mrhand"). Justin> The LSE requires version 19.11 of lemacs Justin> LSE intializaion failed. This is definitely a configuration problem. "LSE" is possibly "Lucid [something] Environment". This would be positively ancient stuff, Lucid hasn't been around for several years. (0) "xemacs dies" means you got a Lisp backtrace? A core dump (or a notification of fatal error message? If so, there is a bug in XEmacs as well as a problem in your configuration, and we'd appreciate Lisp and C backtraces if you can supply them. (1) Most likely it is something in your ~/.emacs or site init files. If these are known and simple, just go look. You can use command line options `-no-init-file', `-no-site-file', `-no-early-packages', and `-no-autoloads' (these last two are unlikely to help if you haven't been using XEmacs 21 before) to isolate exactly where the problem is. -vanilla is an abbreviation for the first three and -no-autoloads implies -vanilla, so they are not completely orthogonal. See Info | XEmacs | Command Switches and its cross-references for details. `-debug-init' and `-debug-paths' may also be useful. (A find on the output of -debug-paths might locate the "LSE" stuff too, then you could find out what it is and does.) (2) Try "xemacs -vanilla". This should not die. If it somehow manages to die in the same way you must have mixed the core Lisp libraries somehow; the init process up to where -vanilla leaves off looks for files in version-specific places. Try rebuilding using the default --prefix, etc. Try running in place, without installing anything. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules."