Pete> Try as I might, I can't come up with any reason to force Pete> other interested people to have to search for this Pete> information themselves. Thanks for your effort. Forwarding to the developers. Followups set to xemacs-beta. Pete> The comments in square brackets are mine. As you'll see, my Pete> attempt to build this failed. ===== build notes for XEmacs 21.5.9 MacOS X Carbon Installation notes can be found at: http://homepage.mac.com/pjarvis/xemacs-21.5.9.html [*** There's also a prebuilt binary here.] Use Project Builder 2.0 running on Jaguar, MacOS X v10.2, to build XEmacs. Project Builder 1.1 also works, but requires some minor diddling with source and project files. [*** If you have the December 2002 Dev Tools, with Project Builder 2.1, this project doesn't build as is. See below.] 1. Download and unzip the XEmacs source files. http://homepage.mac.com/pjarvis/xemacs-carbon-21.5.9.tar.gz Put the XEmacs folder in a convenient place. [*** You can also get the sources via cvs, as described earlier.] 2. Fire up /Applications/Utilities/Terminal and run configure If you have XFree86 (XDarwin) installed, the wrong thing gets built, [*** Presumably /usr/X11R6 has to be moved out of the way to avoid this problem. Anyway that's what I did. Is there a cleaner way to disable X11 support?] 3. make the terminal version of XEmacs This creates necessary supporting files: src/config.h, Installation, ... Check that the terminal version works 3a. Create ~/.xemacs and copy macintosh/init.el into ~/.xemacs [*** This init.el isn't in the cvs tree, but you can extract it from the prebuilt xemacs at pjarvis' site. Obviously you'd want to merge this into your existing init.el if you have one.] 3b. Copy lisp/macintosh/site-start.el to lisp/site-start.el 3c. Check again that terminal version works 3d. Some xemacs-packages are included. My favorites include: c-support cc-mode debug dired ediff edit-utils efs os-utils prog-modes psgml xemacs-base xemacs-devel 3e. Check again that terminal version works 4. Modify existing files that need changes HAVE_CARBON controls Carbon compilation [*** The full diff is in CHANGES but I haven't included it here. It appears as if these patches have already been applied in the cvs tree.] 5. Add new files [*** The list of new files is in CHANGES but I haven't included it here. These files already exist in the cvs tree.] 6. make clean and build the terminal version again Some manual intervention is necessary here. I still have issues with byte compiling macintosh elisp files in proper order. [*** Given the state of the cvs tree, it's not clear how the second build differs from the first. In any case I skipped this step.] 7. Check again that the terminal version works 8. Open macintosh/projects/xemacs.pbproj with Project Builder 9. Change Project Builder preferences to build XEmacs.app in macintosh directory 10. Build. XEmacs.app should wind up in the macintosh directory. Unless you play games with config.h, the version built on 10.2 will not run on 10.1.x. [*** I had to remove the existing reference to xemacs.nib and then re-add that file to get the build to proceed. But I've never used ProjectBuilder before, so this could be a misunderstanding on my part. Once past that problem, the compile proceeded without errors (though with lots of warnings) but the link failed with multiple definitions of _main and _environ. I'm guessing this is because I'm using the December 2002 Dev Tools. A similar issue with the Dec 2002 tools tripped up fsf carbon emacs.] [*** This is followed by a list of new files and a unified diff of changes to other files.] -- *plonk*