This is not critical to me, since I kept a working copy of an older 21.2 beta to actually use ... but I haven't been able to use a current CVS beta for at least a month because, in gnus, they crash after no more than ten minutes with errors like these: xemacs: X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) Major opcode of failed request: 12 (X_ConfigureWindow) Value in failed request: 0x0 Serial number of failed request: 79626 Current serial number in output stream: 79659 Error: Widget *Article* has zero width and/or height -- Michael D. Harnois, Redeemer Lutheran Church, Washburn, IA mharnois(a)willinet.net aa0bt(a)aa0bt.ampr.org "Waiter, there's no fly in my soup!" - Kermit the Frog