SL Baur <steve(a)xemacs.org&gt; writes: I use the Sun stuff practically all day and never saw such a crash! Which of the gazillion Sun Compiler/IDE packages are we talking about? Is it really 'Sparcworks/EOS'? In that case can't you just get an upgrade from Sun? I mean Ericsson is a rich company, isn't it? :-) AFAIK the current thing is named '(Visual) Workshop'. That's the one I'm using here and I have never seen any problems. In that system most of the bookkeeping is moved out of Emacs-Lisp into some separate binary (eserve). Apparently this system doesn't even use tooltalk for communication with XEmacs. I think Sun will release a new Compiler Real Soon Now (named SC 5.0 and finally supporting ANSI/ISO C++), does anybody know whether they will release yet another IDE or even kill the XEmacs integration? ^^^ Wow -- you're doing Fortran??? I thought/hoped that had died a decade ago. Gunnar -- Gunnar Evermann Natural Language Systems Group, University of Hamburg EMail: Gunnar.Evermann(a)nats.informatik.uni-hamburg.de