Dres> Debian user reporting a bug. It looks like he might have a Dres> point. Any comments? Should the section be removed? I'll take a closer look at this particular case when I have time, but this is a general problem: AUC-TeX vs tex-mode, vc vs. vc-cc vs. clearcase, psgml vs. sgml-mode. There are many "improved" add-on packages or conflicting add-on packages which provide modes by the same (intuitive) name. It almost certainly should _not_ be removed; there are a lot of users who intensely dislike "nanny" modes and prefer the older versions, several of which are included in the core Lisp for various historical reasons. I guess the solution I would prefer is a patch that (1) in the node about modes warns that many of the specific modes, while still available, have been superseded by more "modern" packages, and (2) in modes that are shadowed by a package provide an ＠xref to the shadowing package. -- Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Don't ask how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.