I've just tried to build the latest CVS version of the xemacs packages on a clean box (i.e. no packages installed except for what comes with building and installing xemacs from the latest CVS) under cygwin (latest release) on W2k, only to have it fail in building ilisp with the error: Cannot open load file: browse-url I assume this may have something to do with the following change (since 'browse-url is in mail-lib): 2002-05-08 Steve Youngs <youngs(a)xemacs.org&gt; * Makefile (PRELOADS): Remove, there's no need to push the current directory into the load-path. (compile): No need to push mail-lib and fsf-compat directories into the load-path. The output from making the ilisp directory is at the end of the message. // Conrad [ -d ilisp ] && make - --unix -w -C ilisp make[2]: Entering directory `/home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp' xemacs -batch -l ilisp-mak.el ILISP Compilation: starting. Loading ilcompat.el... Loading ilxemacs... ;;; Emacs Version xemacs Loading comint... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilxemacs.el... While compiling the end of the data in file /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilxemacs.el: ** The following functions are not known to be defined: get-input-ring, ring-insert-new Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilxemacs.elc Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilcompat.el... Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilcompat.elc Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/completer.el... Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/completer.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/completer.elc... Loading completer... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/comint-ipc.el... While compiling the end of the data in file /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/comint-ipc.el: ** the function ilisp-scroll-output is not known to be defined. Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/comint-ipc.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/comint-ipc.elc... Loading comint-ipc... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/bridge.el... Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/bridge.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/bridge.elc... Loading bridge... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-def.el... Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-def.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-def.elc... Loading ilisp-def... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-sym.el... Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-sym.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-sym.elc... Loading ilisp-sym... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-inp.el... Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-inp.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-inp.elc... Loading ilisp-inp... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-ind.el... Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-ind.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-ind.elc... Loading ilisp-ind... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-prc.el... Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-prc.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-prc.elc... Loading ilisp-prc... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-val.el... Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-val.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-val.elc... Loading ilisp-val... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-out.el... While compiling the end of the data in file /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-out.el: ** The following functions are not known to be defined: ilisp-where-is, window-edges, epoch::get-buffer-window, epoch::select-screen, epoch::current-screen Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-out.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-out.elc... Loading ilisp-out... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-mov.el... While compiling the end of the data in file /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-mov.el: ** the function lisp-skip is not known to be defined. Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-mov.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-mov.elc... Loading ilisp-mov... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-key.el... While compiling the end of the data in file /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-key.el: ** the function lisp-mode-commands is not known to be defined. Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-key.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-key.elc... Loading ilisp-key... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-prn.el... Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-prn.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-prn.elc... Loading ilisp-prn... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-low.el... Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-low.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-low.elc... Loading ilisp-low... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-doc.el... Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-doc.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-doc.elc... Loading ilisp-doc... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-ext.el... While compiling the end of the data in file /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-ext.el: ** the function untabify is not known to be defined. Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-ext.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-ext.elc... Loading ilisp-ext... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-mod.el... While compiling the end of the data in file /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-mod.el: ** the function run-ilisp is not known to be defined. Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-mod.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-mod.elc... Loading ilisp-mod... 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Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-hnd.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-hnd.elc... Loading ilisp-hnd... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-utl.el... While compiling the end of the data in file /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-utl.el: ** the function ilisp-update-menu is not known to be defined. Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-utl.elc Loading /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-utl.elc... Loading ilisp-utl... Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp-cmp.el... 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Wrote /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/ilisp.elc Done compiling and loading ILISP. (cd extra; cp -f hyperspec-naggum.el hyperspec.el;true) xemacs -batch -eval '(byte-compile-file "extra/hyperspec.el")' Compiling /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/extra/hyperspec.el... While compiling toplevel forms in file /home/src/xemacs/packages/xemacs-packages/ilisp/extra/hyperspec.el: !! File error (("Cannot open load file" "browse-url")) xemacs exiting .Cannot open load file: browse-url

>>>> "Conrad" == Conrad Scott <Conrad.Scott(a)dsl.pipex.com&gt; writes:

Conrad> Thanks to Vin Shelton for his patch to get the ilisp Conrad> package compiled. Now I have a SEGV in compiling Conrad> tramp-util.el. This isn't really a SEGV in the usual sense (writing through a wild pointer), it's an infinite loop.

Conrad> This is running the latest CVS HEAD copy of xemacs Known to have at least one such in the lstream code.

As Adrian says, for working on the packages you really should use the stable (21.1.14) or gamma (21.4.8) XEmacs. The 21.5 code is very unstable right now, Mule or no Mule.

>>>>> "Conrad" == Conrad Scott <Conrad.Scott(a)dsl.pipex.com&gt; writes: Conrad> "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org&gt; writes: >> Conrad> Thanks to Vin Shelton for his patch to get the ilisp Conrad> package compiled. Now I have a SEGV in compiling Conrad> tramp-util.el. >> >> This isn't really a SEGV in the usual sense (writing through a wild >> pointer), it's an infinite loop. Conrad> Agreed: the immediate cause of death was a SEGV but that may

Conrad> cygwin's way of mentioning that the stack has run out. Conrad> This is running the latest CVS HEAD copy of xemacs >> >> Known to have at least one such in the lstream code. Conrad> Good: at least, it's better that a bug be known than not,

Conrad> basis of my post really. >> As Adrian says, for working on the packages you really should use

>> stable (21.1.14) or gamma (21.4.8) XEmacs. The 21.5 code is very >> unstable right now, Mule or no Mule. Conrad> I wasn't really trying to work on the packages: I've been Conrad> looking (vaguely as yet) at a long standing problem in Conrad> cygwin where XEmacs loses the output (occassionally) of Conrad> shell commands (particularly, and most irritatingly, of Conrad> compile output). I've got into the habit of using the CVS Hi Conrad, it's worth trying 21.4.8 to see whether it fixes this problem. See http://www.xemacs.org/Releases/21.4.8.html#summary for the details. Please report back! Best regards, Adrian Conrad> HEAD for playing around with, and this is the first time Conrad> for quite a while it's bitten me this badly. Anyhow I'll Conrad> move back off the leading edge a little and keep on Conrad> stumbling about in the code until I've got something Conrad> useful to say. Conrad> Thanks for the responses, Conrad> // Conrad -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

>This should be fixed in CVS now, thanks to Vin's patch.