hi all got a problem with xemacs beta my init file works fine with 21.4 but 21.5.1 complains about not being able to load pces-xm could it be a mule thing my 21.4 instalation doesnt have mule and ive got a separate packages tree (from experimental) for beta version all packages for beta are current um i had problems installing leim could that be it ?? my init.el file is almost the same as the sample one plus a couple of included files for vm customisation let me know if you need it my instalation details and output from -debug-init are below -debug-init output Signaling: (file-error "Cannot open load file" "pces-xm") signal(file-error ("Cannot open load file" "pces-xm")) load("pces-xm" nil t nil) si:require(pces-xm nil) require(pces-xm) byte-code("..." [product find-coding-system raw-text-dos copy-coding-system no-conversion-dos raw-text-mac no-conversion-mac raw-text-unix no-conversion-unix featurep mule require pces-xm pces-20 apel-ver put provide pces-xfc product-find-by-name "APEL" product-run-checkers (10 2) product-add-feature product-version vector nil] 12) load-internal("pces-xfc" nil t nil binary) load("pces-xfc" nil t nil) si:require(pces-xfc nil) require(pces-xfc) byte-code("..." [emacs-major-version product require poe fboundp open-network-stream tcp featurep xemacs file-coding pces-xfc pces-raw mule 20 pces-e20 pces-om boundp NEMACS pces-nemacs apel-ver put provide pces product-find-by-name "APEL" product-run-checkers (10 2) product-add-feature product-version vector nil] 12) load-internal("pces" nil t nil binary) load("pces" nil t nil) si:require(pces nil) require(pces) byte-code("..." [emacs-major-version product current-load-list require pces featurep mule xemacs poem-xm 20 poem-e20 poem-om boundp NEMACS poem-nemacs poem-ltn1 fboundp string-as-unibyte #<compiled-function (string) "...(2)" [string] 1 "Return a unibyte string with the same individual bytes as STRING.\nIf STRING is unibyte, the result is STRING itself.\n[Emacs 20.3 emulating macro]"> byte-optimizer (nil byte-compile-inline-expand) error "%s already has a byte-optimizer, can't make it inline" put byte-compile-inline-expand defsubst-maybe t string-as-multibyte #<compiled-function (string) "...(2)" [string] 1 "Return a multibyte string with the same individual bytes as STRING.\nIf STRING is multibyte, the result is STRING itself.\n[Emacs 20.3 emulating macro]"> charset-after #<compiled-function (&optional pos) "...(5)" [pos char-charset] 2 "Return charset of a character in current buffer at position POS.\nIf POS is nil, it defaults to the current point.\nIf POS is out of range,! the value is nil.\n[Emacs 20.3 emulating function]"> defun-maybe char-octet #<compiled-function (ch &optional n) "...(16)" [ch n 1 split-char 0] 3 "Return the octet numbered N (should be 0 or 1) of char CH.\nN defaults to 0 if omitted. [XEmacs-mule emulating function]"> apel-ver provide poem product-find-by-name "APEL" product-run-checkers (10 2) product-add-feature product-version vector nil] 12) load-internal("poem" nil t nil binary) load("poem" nil t nil) si:require(poem nil) require(poem) byte-code("..." [mouse-button-3 mouse-button-2 mouse-button-1 emacs-major-version running-xemacs current-load-list require poe running-emacs-18 boundp 18 featurep xemacs running-mule-merged-emacs MULE mule running-xemacs-with-mule running-emacs-19 19 running-emacs-19_29-or-later 29 20 running-xemacs-19 running-xemacs-20-or-later running-xemacs-19_14-or-later 14 button1 button2 button3 [mouse-1] [mouse-2] [down-mouse-3] nil fboundp tl:make-overlay defalias make-overlay make-obsolete tl:overlay-put overlay-put tl:overlay-buffer overlay-buffer poem mcharset invisible emacs-minor-version] 3) load-internal("emu" nil t nil binary) load("emu" nil t nil) require(emu) byte-code("..." [require emu tl-str autoload add-path "file-detect" get-latest-path file-installed-p] 3) load-internal("tl-misc" nil t nil binary) load("tl-misc" nil t nil) require(tl-misc) byte-code("..." [require tl-misc call-after-loaded tm-view #<compiled-function nil "...(29)" [require tm-partial set-atype mime/content-decoding-condition ... autoload mime-article/decode-message/external-ftp "tm-ftp" ... ... mime/decode-text/latex "tm-latex"] 3>] 3) load-internal("tm-setup" nil t nil binary) load("tm-setup" nil t nil) require(tm-setup) load-internal("mime-setup" nil nil nil binary) load("mime-setup") load-internal("vm-conf" nil nil nil undecided) load("vm-conf") load-library("vm-conf") load-internal("/home/rendhalver/.xemacs/init.el" t t t undecided) load("/home/rendhalver/.xemacs/init.el" t t t) load-user-init-file() load-init-file() command-line() normal-top-level() --end -debug-init --Instalation---- uname -a: Linux ulthwe.dyndns.org 2.2.17-14 #1 Mon Feb 5 16:02:20 EST 2001 i686 unknown configure '--with-mule' '--prefix=/usr/local/xemacs-beta' '--with-prefix' '--srcdir=/Hacking/src/xemacs/xemacs-21.5' XEmacs 21.5-b1 "anise" configured for `i686-pc-linux'. Compilation / Installation: Source code location: /Hacking/src/xemacs/xemacs-21.5 Installation prefix: /usr/local/xemacs-beta Operating system description file: `s/linux.h' Machine description file: `m/intel386.h' Compiler: gcc -g -O3 -Wall -Wno-switch -Winline -Wmissing-prototypes -Wshadow -Wsign-compare Relocating allocator for buffers: no GNU version of malloc: yes - Using Doug Lea's new malloc from the GNU C Library. Window System: Compiling in support for the X window system: - X Windows headers location: /usr/X11R6/include - X Windows libraries location: /usr/X11R6/lib - Handling WM_COMMAND properly. Compiling in support for the Athena widget set: - Athena headers location: X11/Xaw - Athena library to link: Xaw Using Lucid menubars. Using Lucid scrollbars. Using Athena dialog boxes. Using Athena native widgets. TTY: Compiling in support for ncurses. Compiling in support for GPM (General Purpose Mouse). Images: Compiling in support for GIF images (builtin). Compiling in support for XPM images. Compiling in support for PNG images. Compiling in support for JPEG images. Compiling in support for TIFF images. Sound: Compiling in support for sound (native). Compiling in support for ESD (Enlightened Sound Daemon). Databases: Compiling in support for Berkeley database. Compiling in support for LDAP. Compiling in support for PostgreSQL. - Using PostgreSQL header file: pgsql/libpq-fe.h - Using PostgreSQL V7 bindings. Internationalization: Compiling in support for Mule (multi-lingual Emacs). Compiling in support for XIM (X11R5+ I18N input method). - Using raw Xlib to provide XIM support. Mail: Compiling in support for "dot-locking" mail spool file locking method. Other Features: Compiling in support for dynamic shared object modules. Compiling in support for extra debugging code. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- WARNING: Compiling in support for runtime error checking. WARNING: XEmacs will run noticeably more slowly as a result. WARNING: Error checking is on by default for XEmacs beta releases. WARNING: --------------------------------------------------------- --end Instalation----