Reiner> Could you suggest a way to check the date of the package without Reiner> XEmacs? Maybe an URL to the package ChangeLog or similar? If you've got the mail generated by report-xemacs-bug, it has the version information for all the installed packages. In this case, it's (gnus ver: 1.87 upstream: 5.10.7) You could then track this back with the package ChangeLog. 2005-11-15 Norbert Koch <viteno(a)xemacs.org&gt; * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.87 released. 2005-11-15 Steve Youngs <steve(a)sxemacs.org&gt; * Sync with upstream stable branch. Please see the ChangeLog.upstream files for details. 2005-10-12 Norbert Koch <viteno(a)xemacs.org&gt; * Makefile (VERSION): XEmacs package 1.86 released. Does that help? cheers, mike