Karl> This is such a nice way to view the buffer list that I Karl> think it should be the default way to view it. Can we put Karl> this on C-x C-b, please? OK, this time I tried it. It works out of the box under (emacs-version) "XEmacs 21.5 (beta2) \"artichoke\" [Lucid] (i586-pc-win32) of Tue Jul 31 2001 on D5DC120J" and looks quite nice to me. Even mouse-track-insert works from *Ibuffer* to, e.g. *scratch*. However, text properties are copied over to the *scratch* buffer. Text appears colored in the *scratch* buffer as well. This should not happen, I think. What do others think about this improved *Buffer List*? It definitely needs some testing and the old *Buffer List* can't just be taken out before any compatibility issues are addressed. Some people will undoubtedly ask for the old behavior. Adrian Karl> From: Colin Walters <walters+n(a)cis.ohio-state.edu&gt; Karl> Subject: ibuffer.el 2.3 Karl> Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.sources Karl> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:09:04 -0400 Karl> Organization: Church of Emacs, Missionary Dept. Karl> Message-ID: <87elqzsdjz.church.of.emacs(a)space-ghost.verbum.org&gt; Karl> Mail-Copies-To: never Karl> Xref: sn-us gnu.emacs.sources:9643 Karl> Hello, Karl> ;; ibuffer.el is an advanced replacement for the `buffer-menu' which Karl> ;; is normally distributed with Emacs. Its interface is intended to Karl> ;; be analogous to that of Dired. <lines deleted by Adrian> -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/

KMH> This is such a nice way to view the buffer list that I think KMH> it should be the default way to view it. Can we put this on KMH> C-x C-b, please? SY> Sure, just add SY> (define-key global-map [(control x) (control b)] 'ibuffer) SY> to your init.el That's not what he meant; Karl can find his init.el with his eyes closed and both hands tied behind his back. Karl, why don't you submit a patch against etc/sample.init.el? Changing ancient bindings takes a politically long time (and will go into 21.4 over my fossilized dead body ;-), "stable" means NO surprises, no bad ones and NO GOOD ONES either), but sample.init.el does not suffer those problems. What we need is a mechanism, probably with a UI off the help menu, to do themes of "modern" and "traditional" etc bindings. Jan Vroonhof was working on this, but he then did the unspeakable (got a day job, I mean, not move to gnu.org ;-). -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules."