Hi, This time it is "modules/base64/Makefile" that is the item under investigation. I think we can include the file "modules/zlib/Makefile" as well since it seems to have the same history. I have done some analysis in order to follow these files but it is tricky. I don't even know if it helps that much. Read on and you'll be the judge of that. Anyway if I get it right the introduction of the modules directory seems to be attributed to William Perry. Somewhere around version 20.5. At that time there were Makefile.in's in the bae64 and zlib directories. These Makefile.in's were later replaced by plain Makefile's in 21.2.9. (February 1999?) From the ChangeLog it is not clear who did that change. Work with loadable modules are attributed to both Damon Lipparelli and J. Kean Johnston in that version but it could have been someone else who fixed the Makefiles. I believe these are the versions of the files we have today anyway. At some time later the other directories under modules got configurable Makefile.in.in but not zlib and base64. Maybe because these modules are not used? Oddly!? the very same Makefile is found here: http://autocad.xarch.at/lsp_tools/ntemacs/emodules/w32hhelp/ If the dates are correct there that file is younger than what we have. Maybe "ntemacs" gives some clue from where these Makefiles originates. They contain the text "Sample makefile for a simple Emacs module." which indicates they actually come from Emacs or!? Any suggestions on how to deal with these Makefiles? Yours -- %% Mats _______________________________________________ XEmacs-Beta mailing list XEmacs-Beta(a)xemacs.org http://lists.xemacs.org/mailman/listinfo/xemacs-beta