9:15 p.m.
This might be slightly offtopic, but I just got xemacs-21.4.5 and tried to
compile auctex-11.06 as well as auctex-10.0g with it. I always get this
error:
Compiling /scratch/auctex-11.06/auc-old.el...
While compiling toplevel forms in file /scratch/auctex-11.06/auc-old.el:
!! Symbol's value as variable is void ((popup-mode-menu))
>Error occurred processing auc-old.el:
Symbol's value as
variable is void: popup-mode-menu
Compiling /scratch/auctex-11.06/tex.el...
Wrote /scratch/auctex-11.06/tex.elc
Compiling /scratch/auctex-11.06/tex-buf.el...
While compiling toplevel forms in file /scratch/auctex-11.06/tex-buf.el:
!! Symbol's value as variable is void ((popup-mode-menu))
>Error occurred processing tex-buf.el:
Symbol's value as
variable is void: popup-mode-menu
Compiling /scratch/auctex-11.06/latex.el...
While compiling toplevel forms in file /scratch/auctex-11.06/latex.el:
!! Symbol's value as variable is void ((popup-mode-menu))
>Error occurred processing latex.el:
Symbol's value as
variable is void: popup-mode-menu
Compiling /scratch/auctex-11.06/tex-info.el...
While compiling toplevel forms in file /scratch/auctex-11.06/tex-info.el:
!! Symbol's value as variable is void ((popup-mode-menu))
>Error occurred processing tex-info.el:
Symbol's value as
variable is void: popup-mode-menu
I was browsing and googling for a while and found only messages that one
should use a binary distribution than and so forth. I would like to fix
that problem on my machine and use xemacs with this auctex. Any
suggestions how to interpret above message ? I know lisp and scheme
but never wrote stuff for emacs/xemacs.
thanks alot, Thomas Witzel
5:06 a.m.
>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas Witzel
<twitzel(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> writes:
Thomas> This might be slightly offtopic, but I just got
Thomas> xemacs-21.4.5 and tried to compile auctex-11.06 as well as
Thomas> auctex-10.0g with it. I always get this error:
Thomas> Symbol's value as variable is void: popup-mode-menu
Menu stuff is one thing that differs between Emacs and XEmacs. Now
that Emacs 21.x has been released, we can start to think about more
synching, but for the last year the knowledge that they were going to
do everything incompatibly again has been a real deterrent to synching
work. (No, they don't do any of it AFAICT.)
Thomas> suggestions how to interpret above message ? I know lisp
Thomas> and scheme but never wrote stuff for emacs/xemacs.
If you have Emacs, use C-h v popup-mode-menu to find out where it's
defined and how it's used.
You probably can get a clean compile by simply adding
(defvar popup-mode-menu nil)
to tex-site.el in the AUC-TeX distribution.
You may want to write to the AUC-TeX maintainers about it.
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1:18 p.m.
There is no such think as 'popup-mode-menu' in any version of Emacs,
it is part of the XEmacs support:
;;; Special support for XEmacs
(when (featurep 'xemacs)
(defadvice popup-mode-menu (before LaTeX-update activate)
"Run `LaTeX-menu-update' before showing menu."
(and (fboundp 'LaTeX-menu-update)
(LaTeX-menu-update)))
The code should obviously be rewritten to use :filter to be cleaner,
but I don't know why Thomas Witzel gets these errors.
2:40 p.m.
I don't get an error in emacs. I get them all in xemacs. Seems
like there is no such thing like popup-menu-mode in xemacs-21.4.5.
Even if there was popup-mode-menu my xemacs-21.4.5. doesn't know
defadvice either.
I think I can live without that block, but now I ran into a problem
with not having regexp-opt, can somebody help me with that ?
Thomas
On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Per Abrahamsen wrote:
There is no such think as 'popup-mode-menu' in any version of
Emacs,
it is part of the XEmacs support:
;;; Special support for XEmacs
(when (featurep 'xemacs)
(defadvice popup-mode-menu (before LaTeX-update activate)
"Run `LaTeX-menu-update' before showing menu."
(and (fboundp 'LaTeX-menu-update)
(LaTeX-menu-update)))
The code should obviously be rewritten to use :filter to be cleaner,
but I don't know why Thomas Witzel gets these errors.
2:49 p.m.
Thomas Witzel <twitzel(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> writes:
I don't get an error in emacs. I get them all in xemacs. Seems
like there is no such thing like popup-menu-mode in xemacs-21.4.5.
Even if there was popup-mode-menu my xemacs-21.4.5. doesn't know
defadvice either.
I think I can live without that block, but now I ran into a problem
with not having regexp-opt, can somebody help me with that ?
Thomas
FWIW, I just compiled auctex-10.0g with XEmacs 21.4.5 without any
problems.
Did you install the xemacs-base package? regexp-opt is part of it.
--
Nevin
3:25 p.m.
>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur
<nevin(a)jhu.edu> writes:
Nevin> Did you install the xemacs-base package? regexp-opt is
Nevin> part of it.
Missing packages is at least part of the problem.
popup-mode-menu is a function, not a variable. So what very likely is
happening is that Thomas doesn't have the advice library (also part of
the xemacs-base package). That would mean that XEmacs is unaware that
defadvice is a macro, which means that under some circumstances it
might try to evaluate the (unquoted) function name argument to
defadvice as a symbol, producing the "unbound variable" message.
(That's just a guess.)
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12:42 a.m.
On 13 Nov 2001, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>>>>> "Nevin" == Nevin Kapur
<nevin(a)jhu.edu> writes:
Nevin> Did you install the xemacs-base package? regexp-opt is
Nevin> part of it.
Missing packages is at least part of the problem.
Er, this may well be a stupid suggestion, but have you considered
shipping an irregularly updated 'xemacs-base' package[1] in the 'etc'
directory of the binary?
That way the startup procedure could verify the existence of the package
on disk and, if it's not there, ask the user if they wanted to install
it?
Something subtle like:
"you don't seem to have the xemacs-base package
installed. This will cause XEmacs to fail horribly.
Should I install a version of this package?"
Then, suggest to the user that they probable want to go and upgrade
their packages from the net -- after they already have a completely
working XEmacs?
This would retain the advantage of having the xemacs-base package
updated when bugs were fixed, but would still ship a fully working[2]
XEmacs to users, even if they didn't grab the SUMO.
Daniel
Footnotes:
[1] Possibly also EFS and whatever else is needed for net update of
packages to work.
[2] Where "working" is defined as "fully bootstrapped"
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4:35 a.m.
>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Pittman
<daniel(a)rimspace.net> writes:
Daniel> Er, this may well be a stupid suggestion, but have you
Daniel> considered shipping an irregularly updated 'xemacs-base'
Daniel> package[1] in the 'etc' directory of the binary?
etc is the wrong place for it. There's no reason why we can't put it
where it belongs. But basically this is a variant on the
sumo-in-source proposal. It's just that no one has bothered to take
the ball and run with it. (More on the playbook in the near future.)
http://www.xemacs.org/Releases/Public-21.2/projects/sumo.html
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12:05 p.m.
On 13 Nov 2001, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>>>>> "Daniel" == Daniel Pittman
<daniel(a)rimspace.net> writes:
Daniel> Er, this may well be a stupid suggestion, but have you
Daniel> considered shipping an irregularly updated 'xemacs-base'
Daniel> package[1] in the 'etc' directory of the binary?
etc is the wrong place for it.
Well, sure. I went and thought about places that this may fit, and that
sprang to mind. :)
There's no reason why we can't put it where it belongs. But
basically
this is a variant on the sumo-in-source proposal.
So it is. I presumed that it was either completely stupid or old, so
opted for the most likely on my account.
It's just that no one has bothered to take the ball and run with
it.
(More on the playbook in the near future.)
http://www.xemacs.org/Releases/Public-21.2/projects/sumo.html
It strikes me that this is probably more complex than it needs to be.
The current SUMO distribution[1] and a smaller package that was enough
to bootstrap, whatever that may be, would be more than enough.
The pre-built bits and pieces seem overkill to me, but that's just my
opinion. If it's scripted, it's probably not that much work. :)
Daniel
Footnotes:
[1] XEmacs "classic", basically, with everything.
--
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-- Philip K Dick
3:08 p.m.
>>>> "Thomas" == Thomas Witzel
<twitzel(a)nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> writes:
Thomas> I don't get an error in emacs. I get them all in
Thomas> xemacs. Seems like there is no such thing like
Thomas> popup-menu-mode in xemacs-21.4.5. Even if there was
Thomas> popup-mode-menu my xemacs-21.4.5. doesn't know defadvice
Thomas> either. I think I can live without that block, but now I
Thomas> ran into a problem with not having regexp-opt, can
Thomas> somebody help me with that ?
Welcome to XEmacs Packages, Thomas :-)
See
http://www.xemacs.org/Documentation/packageGuide.html
(locate-library "regexp-opt")
"c:\\Program Files\\XEmacs\\xemacs-packages\\lisp\\xemacs-base\\regexp-opt.elc"
Seems you don't even have xemacs-base installed.
Please see step 7 of
http://www.xemacs.org/Install/index.html
if you build/install under UNIX or Linux.
Best regards,
Adrian
Thomas> Thomas
Thomas> On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Per Abrahamsen wrote:
> There is no such think as 'popup-mode-menu' in any
version of Emacs,
> it is part of the XEmacs support:
>
> ;;; Special support for XEmacs
>
> (when (featurep 'xemacs)
>
> (defadvice popup-mode-menu (before LaTeX-update activate)
> "Run `LaTeX-menu-update' before showing menu."
> (and (fboundp 'LaTeX-menu-update)
> (LaTeX-menu-update)))
>
> The code should obviously be rewritten to use :filter to be cleaner,
> but I don't know why Thomas Witzel gets these errors.
>
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