Hello Andy, seems like my little notebook holds up pretty well in the benchmark, although it's a real drag when running any MS programs like Word, Excel and such. M-x all-hail-xemacs CPU Manufacturer (Intel,HP,DEC,etc.): Intel CPU Type (Pentium,Alpha): x86 Family 5 Model 4 Stepping 4, GenuineIntel (MMX) CPU Speed: 166 MHz RAM (in meg): 48MB Emacs Version: 21.0 "Pyrenean-pre6" XEmacs Lucid Emacs (version): XEmacs 21.0 "Pyrenean-pre6" [Lucid] (i386-pc-win32) of Mon Oct 19 1998 on TWILIGHT Compile line: nmake -f xemacs.mak HAVE_MSW=1 HAVE_NATIVE_SOUND=1 HAVE_XPM=1 XPM_DIR="c:\export\home\tmp\xpm-3.4k" HAVE_PNG=1 PNG_DIR="c:\export\home\tmp\libpng-1.0.2" HAVE_TIFF=1 TIFF_DIR="c:\export\home\tmp\tiff-v3.4" HAVE_JPEG=1 JPEG_DIR="c:\export\home\tmp\jpeg-6b" ZLIB_DIR="c:\export\home\tmp\zlib" DEBUG_XEMACS=0 install Bench Version: 1.2 Function Name Call Count Elapsed Time Average Time ===================================== ========== ============ ============ bench-mark-byte-compile 1 10.294999999 10.294999999 bench-mark-delete-frame 1 0.0200000000 0.0200000000 bench-mark-delete-multiple-frames 1 0.0400000000 0.0400000000 bench-mark-font-lock 1 2.2130000000 2.2130000000 bench-mark-hanoi 1 7.1200000000 7.1200000000 bench-mark-insert-into-empty-buffer 1 0.0 0.0 bench-mark-large-list 10 0.0100000000 0.0010000000 bench-mark-large-list-garbage-collect 1 0.7410000000 0.7410000000 bench-mark-loop 1 0.0899999999 0.0899999999 bench-mark-make-frame 1 0.4599999999 0.4599999999 bench-mark-make-multiple-frames 1 0.1809999999 0.1809999999 bench-mark-make-words 1 0.0199999999 0.0199999999 bench-mark-scrolling-down 1 32.207000000 32.207000000 bench-mark-scrolling-down-fontified 1 34.939999999 34.939999999 bench-mark-scrolling-up 1 31.345000000 31.345000000 bench-mark-scrolling-up-fontified 1 33.739000000 33.739000000 bench-mark-small-list 100 0.0099999999 9.99...e-005 bench-mark-small-list-garbage-collect 1 0.6010000000 0.6010000000 bench-mark-sort-words 1 4.0849999999 4.0849999999 Andy> I ran bench-test with bench-small.el == gnus.el under I used gnus.el of gnus-version "Gnus v5.6.44" Andy> cygwin. How does this compare to the native build anyone, or I run a native build (see "Compile line:" above). Andy> linux on a similar spec The spec of my notebook PC is not very similar to yours, which is more unfortunate for me than for you :-) Regards, Adrian