11:46 p.m.
Is default-frame-plist still the way to set the default frame size? If not,
what is the right way?
If so, then there's a small issue. When xemacs starts, I get a certain
frame size. The splash screen is kind of scrunched (due to my font
sizes). When I click on splash screen the frame automatically resizes to
the expected size. Is this how it's supposed to work?
A minor visual annoyance. I changed my default font to be Bitstream Vera
Sans Mono-10[1]. The columns on the splash screen don't line up nicely
anymore. xemacs -vanilla has nicely lined up columns using whatever the
default font is.
Ray
[1] I set the font using:
(set-specifier
(face-font 'default)
(cons '(x)
(fc-name-unparse
(fc-font-match (selected-device)
(fc-name-parse "Bitstream Vera Sans Mono-10:lang=en")))))
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6:32 a.m.
Raymond Toy writes:
Is default-frame-plist still the way to set the default frame size?
It never was. It's the way to set the default frame size *after* the
initial frame. This has always been bogus.
On X11 platforms, you can use X resources to set up the initial frame.
On all platforms, you can set initial-frame-plist, but you'll probably
get flashing.
When I click on splash screen the frame automatically resizes to
the expected size. Is this how it's supposed to work?
Not as far as I know; it shouldn't resize at all unless you've set
initial-frame-plist.
A minor visual annoyance. I changed my default font to be Bitstream
Vera
Sans Mono-10[1]. The columns on the splash screen don't line up nicely
anymore. xemacs -vanilla has nicely lined up columns using whatever the
default font is.
Check that the bold font is also set correctly to "Bitstream Vera Sans
Mono-10:bold". If so, presumably that means that bold don't have the
same metrics as medium does. We can't do anything about that at
present, as far as I know. We don't have any way to specify tab stops
in pixels.
[1] I set the font using:
(set-specifier
etc. Do you actually get Bitstream Vera Sans Mono-10?
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7:07 a.m.
Stephen J. Turnbull writes:
> A minor visual annoyance. [...] The columns on the splash
> screen don't line up nicely anymore.
Check that the bold font is also set correctly to "Bitstream Vera Sans
Mono-10:bold". If so, presumably that means that bold don't have the
same metrics as medium does.
There's another thing to check, which is that the fonts in use should
have the same dpi settings. I found that when using -vanilla, I get a
dpi that's way too small. This may be a bug in XEmacs, but I don't
have time to track it down.
Steve
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On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org>wrote:
Raymond Toy writes:
> Is default-frame-plist still the way to set the default frame size?
It never was. It's the way to set the default frame size *after* the
initial frame. This has always been bogus.
On X11 platforms, you can use X resources to set up the initial frame.
On all platforms, you can set initial-frame-plist, but you'll probably
get flashing.
> When I click on splash screen the frame automatically resizes to
> the expected size. Is this how it's supposed to work?
Not as far as I know; it shouldn't resize at all unless you've set
initial-frame-plist.
Thanks for the info. This is interesting. I set initial-frame-plist and
default-frame-plist to be the same. I start xemacs and the initial frame
is the same size as if I did xemacs -vanilla. After a bit it shrinks to
some smaller size because I set my default font. Then I click on the
splash screen and it grows to the expected size. This doesn't really
bother me.
> A minor visual annoyance. I changed my default font to be Bitstream
Vera
> Sans Mono-10[1]. The columns on the splash screen don't line up nicely
> anymore. xemacs -vanilla has nicely lined up columns using whatever the
> default font is.
Check that the bold font is also set correctly to "Bitstream Vera Sans
Mono-10:bold". If so, presumably that means that bold don't have the
same metrics as medium does. We can't do anything about that at
That's probably it. (face-font 'default) says DejaVu Sans Mono-10, but
(face-font 'bold) says -12. So I actually have to specify the bold face
too? I had thought that the other fonts where derived from the default if
it wasn't specified.
And setting the bold and italic fonts appropriately makes the splash screen
come out neatly in columns.
Another display glitch: When the initial frame is resized, the Help menu
button is not displayed. If I resize the frame slightly (in any
direction), the Help menu is displayed again.
present, as far as I know. We don't have any way to specify tab stops
in pixels.
> [1] I set the font using:
>
> (set-specifier
etc. Do you actually get Bitstream Vera Sans Mono-10?
Actually, as mentioned above, it's DejaVu Sans Mono. (I recently switched
systems, so I'm not sure if my old system had Bitstream Vera Sans or not.)
Ray
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