i recently got this build output [i have a script that filters out most "intentional" messages, so i only see the errors]: /src/xemacs/cygbuild/working/src 548$ crazy1 working make: *** No rule to make target `extraclean'. Stop. cd ./lib-src && make all cd ./lwlib && make all cd ./src && make all In file included from /src/xemacs/working/src/abbrev.c:35: /src/xemacs/working/src/lisp.h:1269: #error What the hell?! make[1]: *** [abbrev.o] Error 1 make: *** [src] Error 2 /src/xemacs/cygbuild/working/src 549$ of course, i probably created this line, so i shouldn't complain. -- ben I'm sometimes slow in getting around to reading my mail, so if you want to reach me faster, call 520-661-6661. See http://www.666.com/ben/chronic-pain/ for the hell I've been through.