Per Abrahamsen <abraham(a)dina.kvl.dk&gt; writes in xemacs-beta(a)xemacs.org: Well, that's one of the reasons why I asked you to join the XEmacs beta list when I became XEmacs maintainer. I'm very sorry that you and Kyle came (back) in somewhat after things got moving again. Many of the mistakes I made in that period of time have since been corrected and the rest will get corrected post-21.0[1]. Footnotes: [1] Yes Hrvoje, that means all the things you've been beating on me about.