"Robin S. Socha" <robin(a)socha.net&gt; writes: Its a rare occasion to have to argue with you Robin, but on my 21.2.19 the only likely looking suspect on the menus is HTML/View in [netscape w3 etc] which produces: Loading w3... Invalid byte code: "variable reference to constant symbol :group" I thought I'd gotten that error originally from trying to loadd an fsf compiled w3 but have since used xemacs nifty package tools to get the latest and greatest of everything. Somehow that "other" w3 path is creeping in there, plainly visible with C-h v load-path <RET>. Working on that now. PS the hm-html package is not in evidence on ftp.xemacs.org:/pub/xemacs/packages or at least the package tools didn't find it there. I do have it in the "sumo" download though so will try that one.