Jan> Note that we have quite a bit of code in the configure script Jan> to catch this kind of stuff. Could you try figuring out Jan> what's going wrong there? No, we don't have such code. This is Debian, and there has never been an attempt to autodetect the flavor of Athena on Debian. It has always been necessary to use --with-athena on Debian, because of their decision to silently overwrite libXaw with libXaw3d for the "convenience" of their users. I don't know how they do this now; I know they debated changing it for a while, precisely because of apps like XEmacs that extend the widget set which get hosed by their policy if built by non-Debian-maintainers. -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules."

On 19 Apr 2001, Jan Vroonhof wrote: Not only in configure. There is also code in device-x.c, lines 475:544. This uses dlopen(2), which every modern Linux supports (IIRC), to detect this lossage at *runtime* and issue a warning about it. Useful things for me to know[1] are: Which of these symbols are set in `config.h': `HAVE_SHLIB', `LWLIB_USES_ATHENA', `HAVE_ATHENA_3D', `HAVE_DLOPEN'. Also, the output from `config.log' would be helpful, specifically the Athena detection related parts. You can find them between the occurrence of the string `checking for X11 graphics libraries' and `checking for Lesstif'. If you could grab that output and give it to me, that would be helpful. I can't promise much time to look at this, but if I can figure it out I will let you know. Oh, there weren't any of the following warnings in the output of configure, were there: `Assuming that libXaw is actually $athena_variant.' `Could not find a non-3d Athena header set.' `Assuming that X11/Xaw3d headers are suitable for $athena_variant.' `Assuming that Xaw3d headers are suitable for $athena_variant.' `Assuming that X11/Xaw headers are suitable for $athena_variant.' `Could not find a suitable 3d Athena header set.' Sorry for not being able to look at this sooner. Illness is a PITA. Daniel Footnotes: [1] I wrote the detection code back when I used Athena and before Debian got sane and stopped shipping 3D Athena widget sets as libXaw.so[2] [2] In unstable some time ago, as I recall. -- Our quarrel with the world is an echo of the endless quarrel proceeding within us. -- Eric Hoffer

On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Michael Hill wrote: That all looks just peachy for what /should/ be happening. This is what I expect, because unstable has become sane WRT Athena3D again. Daniel -- What we call reality is an agreement that people have arrived at to make life more livable. -- Louise Nevelson