Thanks for the info. Can you (or can someone else) summarize the
discussion? Did inertia win? Is there a plan to move forward? Is there
a plan but no implementor(s)? Are there unresolved technical
disagreements? (A pointer to the discussion(s) is fine instead of a
One other thing I forgot to mention: Some packages on (at least)
have not been updated since 2003! These are either the
most stable software packages in the universe, or they're never used.
;-) But, their existence makes more sense know that I know there is a
21.4-21.5 package issue.
on 09/16/2008 07:55 PM Mike Kupfer said the following:
>>>>> "VGI" == Vladimir G Ivanovic
VGI> I cannot browse www.xemacs.org
and it does not repond to a ping.
I'm currently able to access it. I haven't noticed problems with it
VGI> I tried updating my packages from
VGI> 1. the US main site
VGI> 2. ibiblio.org
VGI> 3. us.xemacs.org
VGI> and all failed. The US main site just never responded, and the
VGI> others reported file/directory not found. (BTW, I don't think I
VGI> have EVER been successful in updating my packages using
VGI> 'package-get' in the last 10 years, but maybe it's PEBKAC or an
VGI> ID10T error.)
I've found the package automation to be somewhat temperamental. It
works okay from my Solaris box, using the main XEmacs site. But I
usually have problems with the Linux box--something about passive FTP
not being supported on the servers, IIRC. (Though come to think of it,
I don't think I've tried it since I upgraded to openSUSE 11.0.)
VGI> "us.xemacs.org" does not resolve.
I recall running into problems with us.xemacs.org
, too. I reported it,
but I don't remember the outcome. There *is* a www.us.xemacs.org
VGI> It appears that the ibiblio XEmacs sumo packages haven't been
VGI> updated since 27 Apr 2007.
That's the most recent version at ftp.xemacs.org
Last I heard, production of new stable packages is stuck, because some
of the packages don't build with 21.4. This issue has been raised a
couple times in the past 10 months or so, but AFAIK it hasn't been fixed
Vladimir G. Ivanovic
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