I guess my last message [Success] was a bit premature. While XEmacs Pre-8 built without error and all of the tools seemed to be installed, it won't install because it claims that the tooltalk package is missing. But, if I run XEmacs and check, it is there! Here is the error: make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/oberman/utils/xemacs-21.0-b51/man' /usr/users/oberman/utils/xemacs-21.0-b51/src/xemacs -batch -l check-features.el Error: This XEmacs is built with tooltalk support but does not have a tooltalk package installed. Without the tooltalk lisp package, Tooltalk support is broken. make: *** [check-features] Error 1 (require 'packages) (defvar build-error 0) (when (featurep 'tooltalk) (condition-case nil (package-require 'tooltalk 1.0) (t (progn (setq build-error 1) (message "Error: This XEmacs is built with tooltalk support but") (message "does not have a tooltalk package installed. Without the") (message "tooltalk lisp package, Tooltalk support is broken."))))) Is the problem that tooltalk is no longer at 1.0, but at 1.06? Since package-require is undocumented, I'm not sure what it is looking for. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman(a)es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634