Moved to xemacs-beta. drv> A veto is probably too strong in that case though. So drv> I'm note going to veto your patch. I'm just *not* going to drv> apply it ;-) Unfortunately, Debian now defaults to 2.5x under circumstances I don't understand. Other distros will undoubtedly follow. Some will probably discontinue 2.13.... I would like to see a patch that detects autoconf >2.13 (maybe 2.14?) and barfs if found, especially for the XEmacs 21.4 series. Give me that, and I'll apply your little fix along with it. For Xemacs 21.5, I think we could also include a temporary configure option that warns that 2.5x is not supported and known not to work, either, but that anybody who wants to work on it can take their lumps and send in patches. ;-) Preferably big ones that Didier likes to review. Maybe we should see if Ben has any 500kb configure patches left around? -- University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Institute of Policy and Planning Sciences Tel/fax: +81 (298) 53-5091 _________________ _________________ _________________ _________________ What are those straight lines for? "XEmacs rules."