robert> Assuming I have logged in for checkout of sources and I robert> have XEmacs source for 21.5.b14 stored locally in my robert> directory named xemacs, should the command robert> cvs -d :pserver:cvs＠cvs.xemacs.org:/pack/xemacscvs status robert> xemacs robert> show some files which are new on the server? Since I first robert> checked out 21.5.b14 last week, all the files show up with robert> File: name-of-file Status: Up-to-date Hi Robert, here's a quick check of the current workspace directory only: cd c:\Hacking\cvs.xemacs.org\XEmacs\xemacs-21.5\ cvs -n -q update -D 2003-06-03 -l | grep -v "^?" Compilation started at Sat Jun 07 22:48:55 2003 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) U 21.4.4-Changes U version.sh Compilation finished at Sat Jun 07 22:49:01 This is what I get for the whole tree. The "New directory" information is for directories not present in the 21.5 branch. They would be newly created (hence "New directory") if you were to update to some old pre-xemacs-packages branch and use the -d switch Robert, do you know about the pcl-cvs package? I can highly recommend its use for any local or remote CVS projects. Hope this helps, Adrian cd c:\Hacking\cvs.xemacs.org\XEmacs\xemacs-21.5\ cvs -n -q update -D 2003-06-03 | grep -v "^?" Compilation started at Sat Jun 07 22:51:32 2003 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) cvs server: New directory `etc/app-defaults' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `etc/auctex' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `etc/e' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `etc/frame-icon' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `etc/gnats' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `etc/gnus' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `etc/gnusrefcard' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `etc/message' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `etc/mine' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `etc/mule' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `etc/ns' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `etc/sgml' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `etc/skk' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `etc/smilies' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `etc/sounds' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `etc/time' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `etc/vm' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `etc/w3' -- ignored cvs server: cannot open directory /pack/xemacscvs/XEmacs/xemacs/html-mono: No such file or directory cvs server: skipping directory html-mono cvs server: New directory `lib-src/mule' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/apel' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/auctex' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/bytecomp' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/calendar' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/cc-mode' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/cl' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/comint' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/custom' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/dired' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/edebug' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/ediff' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/efs' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/egg' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/electric' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/emulators' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/energize' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/eos' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/epoch' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/eterm' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/games' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/gnats' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/gnus' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/hm--html-menus' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/hyperbole' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/ilisp' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/iso' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/its' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/language' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/leim' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/locale' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/macintosh' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/mailcrypt' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/mel' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/mh-e' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/modes' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/mu' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/ns' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/oobr' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/packages' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/pcl-cvs' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/prim' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/psgml' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/quail' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/rmail' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/skk' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/sunpro' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/tl' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/tm' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/tooltalk' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/ui' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/url' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/utils' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/viper' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/vm' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/vms' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/w3' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/w32' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lisp/x11' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `lwlib/energize' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `macintosh' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `man/auctex' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `man/gnats' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `man/gtk' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `man/im' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `man/mule' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `man/skk' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `man/tm' -- ignored cvs server: cannot open directory /pack/xemacscvs/XEmacs/xemacs/man/xemacs/CVSROOT: No such file or directory cvs server: skipping directory man/xemacs/CVSROOT cvs server: cannot open directory /pack/xemacscvs/XEmacs/xemacs/man/xemacs/XEmacs: No such file or directory cvs server: skipping directory man/xemacs/XEmacs cvs server: New directory `modules/example' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `msdos' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `mule-doc' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `nt/inc' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `packages' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `photos' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `pkg-src' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `site-lisp' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `vms' -- ignored cvs server: New directory `w32' -- ignored U 21.4.4-Changes M info/dir M lisp/update-elc-2.el M man/Makefile M nt/xemacs.mak M src/glyphs-msw.c U version.sh Compilation finished at Sat Jun 07 22:53:03 robert> Have I constructed the status command incorrectly? I'm robert> trying to find a way to avoid recompiling or redumping robert> when no files have actually changed. If I run checkout, I robert> always at least get a redump even though some times the robert> only change *appears* to be version.sh. -- Adrian Aichner mailto:adrian＠xemacs.org http://www.xemacs.org/