10:23 a.m.
I've just added initial support for the Euro (and a half-dozen other
characters) by adding
the latin-iso8859-15 charset (ISO Latin-9)
the iso-8859-15 coding system (ISO 8859/15 and ISO IRV 203)
the latin-9 language environment
to 21.5 CVS (check out the bleeding edge with update -A).
Yes, I'm inclined to apply to 21.4, but I'd like it to be more
complete and somewhat tested first. ;-)
I need advice on
(1) what, if anything, to do about the XK_EuroSign keysym for X
(I know you can
(global-set-key [EuroSign]
(lambda () (interactive)
(insert (make-char 'latin-iso8859-15 #xA4)))
but does there need to be a default binding? Is that the right
one? Should it be activated by the language environment? etc)
(2) any other non-Quail input methods for the Euro and additional
characters
(3) I want to make Quail latin-9-prefix and -postfix methods
compatible with the latin-1 methods. I need suggestions for
keystroke bindings for the following characters:
U+20AC euro sign
U+0160 latin capital letter s with caron
U+0161 latin small letter s with caron
U+017D latin capital letter z with caron
U+017E latin small letter z with caron
U+0152 latin capital ligature oe
U+0153 latin small ligature oe
U+0178 latin capital letter y with diaeresis
French and Finnish speakers, this one's for you!
(4) plausible aliases for the language environment
(5) did I get the ISO 2022 final byte correct? (ISO IRV 203 says it's
?b, ie, ASCII 0x62.)
(6) What else did I miss?
Please note that the Gnus in the XEmacs packages seems to be broken;
it will not do QP-encoding of ISO 8859/15 (or ISO 8859/any, for any !=
1) correctly. Not for me, anyway (it just doesn't know anything about
XEmacs, period). I haven't tried VM yet.
The following form may be of use:
(insert (make-char 'latin-iso8859-15 #xA4))
That should give you a Euro sign (eg in *scratch*) out of the box in
xemacs -vanilla.
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12:09 p.m.
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
(1) what, if anything, to do about the XK_EuroSign keysym for X
(I know you can
(global-set-key [EuroSign]
(lambda () (interactive)
(insert (make-char 'latin-iso8859-15 #xA4)))
but does there need to be a default binding? Is that the right
one? Should it be activated by the language environment? etc)
FWIW, Emacs seem to use the locale to decode the X keysyms. If I
start Emacs with a euro-compatible locale ($LANG=sv_SE＠euro) AltGr-E
gives me a euro.
This sort of feelt unnecessary to me, Emacs complained that it didn't
have a binding for "EuroSign" when I press AltGr-E without the proper
locale. If it received the keysym "EuroSign" I don't see what
problems might be caused by defaulting to inserting a euro sign...
I think most people would like the default binding and not have to
fiddle with locales much. But I have tried using the euro in other X
applications and none have worked, so I guess people won't expect it
to work anyway...
Please note that the Gnus in the XEmacs packages seems to be broken;
it will not do QP-encoding of ISO 8859/15 (or ISO 8859/any, for any !=
1) correctly. Not for me, anyway (it just doesn't know anything about
XEmacs, period). I haven't tried VM yet.
Oort Gnus works, I think.
8:50 p.m.
Le Thu 10/01/2002, Simon Josefsson disait
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
> (1) what, if anything, to do about the XK_EuroSign keysym for X
> (I know you can
>
> (global-set-key [EuroSign]
> (lambda () (interactive)
> (insert (make-char 'latin-iso8859-15 #xA4)))
>
> but does there need to be a default binding? Is that the right
> one? Should it be activated by the language environment? etc)
FWIW, Emacs seem to use the locale to decode the X keysyms. If I
start Emacs with a euro-compatible locale ($LANG=sv_SE＠euro) AltGr-E
gives me a euro.
Same for me with $LANG=fr_FR＠euro
This sort of feelt unnecessary to me, Emacs complained that it
didn't
have a binding for "EuroSign" when I press AltGr-E without the proper
locale. If it received the keysym "EuroSign" I don't see what
problems might be caused by defaulting to inserting a euro sign...
I agree. Samething with the other iso-8859-15 characters. I get a oe
undefined when using it.
I think most people would like the default binding and not have to
fiddle with locales much. But I have tried using the euro in other X
applications and none have worked, so I guess people won't expect it
to work anyway...
> Please note that the Gnus in the XEmacs packages seems to be broken;
> it will not do QP-encoding of ISO 8859/15 (or ISO 8859/any, for any !=
> 1) correctly. Not for me, anyway (it just doesn't know anything about
> XEmacs, period). I haven't tried VM yet.
Oort Gnus works, I think.
So do I, I'm trying it.
--
Erwan
2:05 a.m.
|--==> "SJT" == Stephen J Turnbull <stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
SJT> (insert (make-char 'latin-iso8859-15 #xA4))
That worked!
WIBNI the whole world spoke iso-8859-1... :-)
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8:14 p.m.
Le Thu 10/01/2002, Stephen J. Turnbull disait
I've just added initial support for the Euro (and a half-dozen
other
characters) by adding
the latin-iso8859-15 charset (ISO Latin-9)
the iso-8859-15 coding system (ISO 8859/15 and ISO IRV 203)
the latin-9 language environment
to 21.5 CVS (check out the bleeding edge with update -A).
Yes, I'm inclined to apply to 21.4, but I'd like it to be more
complete and somewhat tested first. ;-)
I need advice on
(1) what, if anything, to do about the XK_EuroSign keysym for X
(I know you can
(global-set-key [EuroSign]
(lambda () (interactive)
(insert (make-char 'latin-iso8859-15 #xA4)))
but does there need to be a default binding? Is that the right
one? Should it be activated by the language environment? etc)
I'm downloading it in order to test. maybe there should be a way in
text mode, depending on the language environment if entering the
iso-8859-15 character.
Or did I miss it was already the case ,
--
Erwan
11:27 a.m.
>>>> "Stephen" == Stephen J Turnbull
<stephen(a)xemacs.org> writes:
Stephen> The following form may be of use:
Stephen> (insert (make-char 'latin-iso8859-15 #xA4))
~
Works for me, thanks for the ~, Stephen!
(global-set-key [EuroSign]
(lambda () (interactive)
(insert (make-char 'latin-iso8859-15 #xA4))))
works too, after adding a missing ) to your example.
Sorry it took me so long to respond,
Adrian
Stephen> That should give you a Euro sign (eg in *scratch*) out of
Stephen> the box in xemacs -vanilla.
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