Glynn> Adrian Aichner wrote: Glynn> OK, thanks. Glynn> Hmm. That's exactly what this code was designed to Glynn> prevent. It keeps calling x-find-smaller-font until it gets Glynn> one which is smaller than the glyphs. Glynn> Does font-height work correctly on MS-Windows? (I don't Glynn> have an MS-Windows setup to test this on, so I can't tell). Hi Glynn, turns out (font-height ...) is broken on mswindows[1] ... (set-face-font 'default "Courier New:Regular:10") (font-height (face-property 'default 'font)) 16 (set-face-font 'default "Courier New:Regular:8") (font-height (face-property 'default 'font)) 14 Adrian Glynn> The value which it returns should be the line spacing in Glynn> pixels when all text is in that font. If the function Glynn> indicates that the font is smaller than it really is (in Glynn> terms of line spacing), then gamegrid will end up choosing Glynn> too large a font. Glynn> -- Glynn Clements <glynn(a)sensei.co.uk&gt; Footnotes: [1] emacs-version "21.0 \"Pyrenean-pre6\" XEmacs Lucid"