On Tue, 27 Aug 2002, Alexander Sirotkin wrote: If it's a bug in XEmacs itself -- the C code side -- you generally ask on the beta list. If it's in Lisp, it's actually pretty easy to do if you understand the basics of Emacs Lisp. I find that both of these are useful. There is `message' which puts a little message into the logs, and can be useful. If you call `debug' as a form, though, you drop into the simple lisp debugger. I generally insert '(debug)' into the top of a function I am debugging, hit C-A-x to eval it, then trigger the action. C-h b shows the bindings, which are pretty easy to figure out. edebug is highly spoken of by others but, personally, I never got it to work right. OTOH I /like/ the gdb command line, so you can't judge much from that. :) Make sure that you have the source files (.el) installed. You don't get much debugging information or ability to step in to code that is byte compiled. That may be solved with the debugger, or at least may show you where the problem is. ...you may be lucky. The C code isn't that hard to pick up. :) Daniel -- A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand. -- Bertrand Russell