At 16:40 02/12/98 +0100, Jan Vroonhof wrote: That's kind of what I meant. I'm not wedded to the custom stuff - I just think that updating installed packages should be a major op on the menubar. Now that I remember some more the basic point was that it would be confusing to have two update functions on the menubar. package-get-custom does the right thing whether you are using custom or not. package-get-update-all only does the right thing if you are not using custom. Well maybe. One thing you might want to do is send your installed package list to someone else for them to use (not my idea). The custom stuff sort of allows you to do this. Well you get the installed packages on the menuber as well (and get a menu only interface to installation) I wanted to fix this by making them do the correct update - but there doesn't appear to be any hook that allows me to do this. Because there was no way of removing packages when I wrote it :) I am completely convinced that the pui stuff is the Right Way to go - custom was a quick a dirty means of achieving the same thing using an interface that people might understand. Really I think the pui stuff needs to use the widget stuff and menubar to make the custom stuff completely pointless. andy --------------------------------------------------------------------------- " .sigs are like your face - rarely seen by you and uglier than you think" Dr Andy Piper, Technical Architect, Parallax Solutions Ltd mail: andyp(a)parallax.co.uk web: www.parallax.co.uk/~andyp